(08-16-2021, 10:32 PM)Pendragon Wrote:

(08-16-2021, 09:06 PM)Bullseye Wrote: It didn't appear so, but it's easy for us to say when we weren't the ones tackled.

As for the rookie thing, that is absolutely laughable.

TL is an actual rookie just out of college.

Tebow is 34 years old, played two seasons in the NFL as a QB, and decided on his own volition to try to change positions after a 9 year layoff.

When do the you Tebow cultists stop jumping on the grenade to defend this guy?!?

Even now, Tebow sychophants saw freaking first ballot Hall of Famer John freaking Elway somehow conspired to blackball Tebow from the league as a QB for reasons other than on field, football related reasons.

Now, when video comes out of embarrassing efforts doing one of the fundamental things a TE does-blocking-you trot out the he's just a rookie card.

Pathetic.

Trevor was playing QB last year, and the year before, and the year before.  Tebow was NOT playing tight end last year, nor the year before, nor the year before.  He is a rookie tight end.  I trotted out the rookie card when you trotted it out to justify Trevor.  I could have just pointed out that Justin Fields is also a rookie and blew Lawrence away...

I haven't defended anything about the play (or plays).  But you, the Trevor cultist... the Trevor sycophant, are sure jumping on the grenade to defend him.

Pathetic.

Trevor played QB the last few years because by all measures, he appears to have the skills to do so.

Despite his HS and college success, Tebow was always miscast as an NFL viable QB, and it became obvious when he hit the field.  Denver saw it and every other team saw it, which is why he was out of the league for so long, never getting another chance to be a starter.  Tebow not playing TE or any other more suitable position was his own fault.  Plenty of people suggested switching positions over the years.  He refused to switch positions.  There was a former college QB, Logan Woodside, who knew his limitations and listened to advice and switched to TE in the NFL, and he is starting for Washington.

Furthermore, Trevor Lawrence is actually a rookie!  Tebow isn't.  If you are going to go the results of one preseason game route, Ryan Leaf beat Peyton Manning head to head their rookie year.  How did that work out?  Furthermore, While he made some rookie mistakes, Trevor Lawrence actually performed decently.  There was something to hang his hat on, from the poise he showed to the completions to Marvin Jones.  In that game, there was some basis to defend him!  What the [BLEEP] did Tebow do against Cleveland to justify any defense of him?  We saw he couldn't competently execute a block.  He didn't catch any passes.  The coaches didn't even put him on special teams.  So we couldn't tell if he could at least run down and cover a kick or hold for a FG.

Trust me, this does not work for you or Tebow.

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(08-17-2021, 06:56 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(08-17-2021, 06:51 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: Tebow is awful. Fields is good as I predicted. Lawrence will be better. Lawrence played 2 series' and Fields played 7.

One of Fields’s TD passes was to a TE so wide open that even Tebow could have hit him with it.

Tell me about it.  He jogged backwards for 10-15 yards to score.

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(08-17-2021, 08:18 AM)Tank Commander Wrote:

(08-16-2021, 07:19 PM)Pendragon Wrote: If Tebow weren’t on the team the only talk out of Jax would be how bad TL is in comparison to Justin Fields.  Remember, I’m the one who warned you well before the first game was played that he holds the ball too long, will disappear the first time he gets popped in the mouth and can’t throw timing routes in live game situations.  He waits until receivers break free.  Wait until he is lined up against first team NFL defenses.

In seven series, Fields went 14-of-20 passing for 142 yards and a TD for a 106.7 passer rating. He added five rushes for 33 yards and a score.

Let's see him do that against a real NFL team in the regular seasoon.


Ohio Stat QB's have always floped in the NFL.

Indeed they have.  It's uncanny for such a great college program that's the case.

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