(11-07-2022, 02:50 PM)Mikey Wrote:

(11-07-2022, 02:20 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: What goal posts have been shifted?  It's clear that you missed something as usual.  You're getting old, eyes getting bad

heh, cute. If you've already forgotten all the shifts, I'll help you work through your Alzheimer's.

Post 587 - note that pick was bad because good years spent on 6-win team
Post 588 - copy 587 and suddenly you throw 6-7 year timeframe outta nowhere. (first shift)
Post 597 - double down on the 6-7 year invention
Post 606 - called out on 6-7 year post
Post 607 - copy 606 and redirect conversation to WR because they also have short shelf lives and were part of the criticism of taking RB at 25 (another shift!)
Post 610 - now DJ Moore is suddenly on the same level as franchise RB like Elliot, Barkley, Chubb? (again!)

It's already been said in the thread. We can't say that anyone else at 25 would have been better, worse, or in between. There's so many butterfly effect circumstances that would change the makeup of the current roster, impact the stats that players are getting (or aren't) while playing on other teams, etc. But for some reason there's this insistence to continue grasping at arguments that aren't really making the point that mattered. 

You even said it yourself, you wanted other guys at that spot, so I don't full understand why you've dug in so opposingly toward the conversation.

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(11-07-2022, 02:30 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Zeke is a good example, high pick with little return. Lenny didn't play out his rookie deal, is it really considered high level what he's done?

Yeah, I was thinking if ETN were the next CEH, Baalke would be getting burned in effigy.

We got lucky, plain and simple. Missing with the pick would have been disastrous. Thank goodness it looks like we didn't.

Confused as usual.  The point was people say people don't value RBs, the main reason because of short shelf life.  We aren't drafting for 6 or 7 years down the road.  If I can get 4 or 5 elite years then it's a damn good pick.  Post 607 my point was teams with very good WRs suck as well.  You can do that with most positions.  On DJ Moore, I said I would take a lot of RBs over Moore even though he is a very good WR.  My point remains the same.


If any pick is a bust in the 1st the GM would get burned regardless of what position he drafted.  Doesn't matter if it's a RB or a QB or any other position

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