(10-30-2023, 07:27 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(10-30-2023, 07:00 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: CMC is exactly my point, he didn't help his bad team that drafted him except to get them draft capital from a good team who could afford the luxury of acquiring him. We're lucky in our roster development despite the low value pick that we hit on our free agents instead and that the guy the drafting crew actually wanted for the role got picked ahead of our slot. I'm glad ETN is playing so well, but it's in spite of everything about how he got here, that's why the whole backslappimg some are doing in this thread is silly.

It sure is a lot of "lucky" lately from you lol, everything is lucky lol.  CMC absolutely helped the Panthers and all their wins when he was there and he was their best player.  If they ever had a QB they would of made some noise in the playoffs

"All their wins"? Yeah, the Carolina Panthers were the offensive juggernaut of the NFL and made opposing D coordinators quake in their khakis. If you can't see that having the absolute best running back in the League did nothing for that terrible franchise then I can't help you. Just look at CMC's stats by year and compare it to their record. The numbers will smack you right in the face; when he was just ok in 2017 they won 11 games, when he was really good the next seasons they were middle of the pack to bad. Without him their 6-10 would'e been 4-12? Get out of here with that garbage. Just accept that running backs are low value players who's contributions are pretty much interchangeable for teams both bad and good, it's clear in the stats and clear in the behavior of good NFL franchises.

And just about everything about ETN for this team is flat out lucky: lucky that we got TLaw, lucky that K Toney wasn't the pick, lucky that ETN's foot injury wasn't career ending, lucky that Urban didn't get the chance to ruin him that season , lucky that Urbz got fired, lucky that our free agent class of skill players turned out so well, lucky that we got Doug. We've had an amazing streak of fortune and it's showing on the field...but luck isn't a long term strategy for success either. I fear that our GM is going to eventually be the impediment that holds us back from being really great, and this string of luck and really good coaching/play will come to an end without achieving the success we could've otherwise enjoyed.

Meanwhile, we're 6-2 and I'd rather savor this moment, so carry on.

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(10-30-2023, 10:26 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(10-30-2023, 10:05 AM)Hurricane Wrote: I'm pretty sure your comment is the point NYC is getting at with his drafting position. 

If they had a QB...
If they had edge pressure...
If they had better blocking line...
If they had a RB...
etc

How many times do you think its been said for each position to make the playoffs? I'm guessing the amount of times for a RB is quite a bit less than some of these other positions. Hence the reason they aren't given as much value.

I mean just look at the playoff teams from last year.

In the AFC, the only 1st rounder to start in the playoffs was ETN.

In the NFC, it was CMC, Zeke (with Pollard really as the dude) and Saquon (who they likely regret taking).

*CMC was on his second team, so that is really a different animal than the other 3 listed.

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