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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

#1
(This post was last modified: 10-17-2021, 05:33 PM by TheDuke007. Edited 1 time in total.)

I haven't done this in a while since the Jaguars' play has been "The Bad, The Bad and The Ugly" for a long time.  Anyways, here we go:

The Good
  • The Jaguars finally win and break a 20 game losing streak!
  • Trevor Lawrence had 319 passing yards for 1 TD with 0 interceptions.  He’s definitely showing improvement with some nice throws and cutting down on mistakes.  After having 7 interceptions in his first 3 games, he’s only had 1 in the last 3 games and even the 1 was in garbage time.  (To be fair, on the bad side, Lawrence did have a fumble today.)
  • James Robinson for having 73 rushing yards and 1 TD on only 17 carries.  He also had 28 receiving yards.  Even this understates his performance.  He also had a 27 yard run called back on Farrell’s face mask penalty. 
  • Marvin Jones had 7 receptions for 100 yards and 1 TD.  He made some really tough, contested receptions today.
  • Most considered Agnew a return specialist when he signed with us, but he had 78 receiving yards today.  For comparison sake, he only had 89 yards all of last season.
  • The play call with 5 seconds left in the game.  It was a risk, but it was out of field goal range and a hail Mary would have been riskier.  It worked.  I've been critical of the OC all year, but he gets credit when credit is deserved.
  • The defense actually got a turnover.  That’s been rare this year for the Jaguars.  Thank you Nevin Lawson for the interception.
  • Last, but certainly not least, Wright for being perfect on 3 field goals and 2 extra points.  This included 2 field goals of over 50 yards.
 
 The Bad
  • The Jaguars struggled for most of today against a team that had lost 4 straight games and had the worst score differential in the NFL.
  • The defense had zero sacks today.  Other than occasionally Allen who couldn’t get home, there was virtually no pass rush.
  • The Jaguars were only 3 for 12 on third down conversions. 
  • Not enough separation by wide receivers.  They made it tough on Lawrence.
  • Too many drops by receivers.  Arnold had a crucial one that would have given us first and goal and instead having to settle for a field goal.  Shenault also had a couple of notable drops.
  • Plenty of penalties in key situations.  A face mask penalty wiped out a 27 yard run.
  • They passed up the opportunity for a field goal and take a TD lead in the 4th Quarter by going for it on fourth down and getting stopped.  That mistake almost came back to bite us.  We’re lucky it didn’t.
  • Lack of contributions from draft picks not named “Trevor Lawrence”.  To be fair, two were injured, but still, our other draft picks combined for 1 reception and that player even had the penalty that wiped out the 27 yard run.  From what I can see, no one else made the stat sheet.  No tackles, sacks, interceptions, fumbles, rushes, receptions, etc. Many of them are either inactive, not playing or playing minimally.  That’s not the way to rebuild a team.
The Ugly
 
  • The Dolphins wide receivers were constantly wide open.  The Jaguars often didn’t even have a player within 10 yards of them.  It’s unbelievable how easy we make it on the opposing quarterback. 

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#2

(10-17-2021, 05:31 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: I haven't done this in a while since the Jaguars' play has been "The Bad, The Bad and The Ugly" for a long time.  Anyways, here we go:

The Good
  • The Jaguars finally win and break a 20 game losing streak!
  • Trevor Lawrence had 319 passing yards for 1 TD with 0 interceptions.  He’s definitely showing improvement with some nice throws and cutting down on mistakes.  After having 7 interceptions in his first 3 games, he’s only had 1 in the last 3 games and even the 1 was in garbage time.  (To be fair, on the bad side, Lawrence did have a fumble today.)
  • James Robinson for having 73 rushing yards and 1 TD on only 17 carries.  He also had 28 receiving yards.  Even this understates his performance.  He also had a 27 yard run called back on Farrell’s face mask penalty. 
  • Marvin Jones had 7 receptions for 100 yards and 1 TD.  He made some really tough, contested receptions today.
  • Most considered Agnew a return specialist when he signed with us, but he had 78 receiving yards today.  For comparison sake, he only had 89 yards all of last season.
  • The play call with 5 seconds left in the game.  It was a risk, but it was out of field goal range and a hail Mary would have been riskier.  It worked.  I've been critical of the OC all year, but he gets credit when credit is deserved.
  • The defense actually got a turnover.  That’s been rare this year for the Jaguars.  Thank you Nevin Lawson for the interception.
  • Last, but certainly not least, Wright for being perfect on 3 field goals and 2 extra points.  This included 2 field goals of over 50 yards.
 
 The Bad
  • The Jaguars struggled for most of today against a team that had lost 4 straight games and had the worst score differential in the NFL.
  • The defense had zero sacks today.  Other than occasionally Allen who couldn’t get home, there was virtually no pass rush.
  • The Jaguars were only 3 for 12 on third down conversions. 
  • Not enough separation by wide receivers.  They made it tough on Lawrence.
  • Too many drops by receivers.  Arnold had a crucial one that would have given us first and goal and instead having to settle for a field goal.  Shenault also had a couple of notable drops.
  • Plenty of penalties in key situations.  A face mask penalty wiped out a 27 yard run.
  • They passed up the opportunity for a field goal and take a TD lead in the 4th Quarter by going for it on fourth down and getting stopped.  That mistake almost came back to bite us.  We’re lucky it didn’t.
  • Lack of contributions from draft picks not named “Trevor Lawrence”.  To be fair, two were injured, but still, our other draft picks combined for 1 reception and that player even had the penalty that wiped out the 27 yard run.  From what I can see, no one else made the stat sheet.  No tackles, sacks, interceptions, fumbles, rushes, receptions, etc. Many of them are either inactive, not playing or playing minimally.  That’s not the way to rebuild a team.
The Ugly
 
  • The Dolphins wide receivers were constantly wide open.  The Jaguars often didn’t even have a player within 10 yards of them.  It’s unbelievable how easy we make it on the opposing quarterback. 
I disagree there was NO pas rush.

No sacks?  Yeah.

But I think the rush was okay...but no containment.  Tua ran out of a few sacks and threw out of others.

I agree with you the pass coverage overall was depressing.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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#3

The Good - TLaw and JRob

The Bad - Coaching

The Ugly - We're entering the bye week now and this would have been the perfect time to dump the dead weight that is Urban Meyer  Wallbash
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#4

Now that the monkey is off our back, we get to see if we can build on this.
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#5

The Good:

1. Lawrence continues to show that he will eventually become a legitimate franchise quarterback.

2. James Robinson was finally used correctly.

3. Agnew can continue to be an important part of the team's receiver group.

4. I didn't notice Cam Robinson which is always a good sign for an offensive lineman.

5. Matthew Wright kicked two of the biggest field goals in team history. It may have prevented the team from setting the record for most consecutive losses.

6. The call to go for it on 4th down at the end of the game rather than try a Hail Mary. By far, the best call of the season.


The Bad:

1. No sacks despite getting some pressure on Tua.

2. Secondary can't cover anybody. Good quarterbacks will feast on them all season.

3. J. Taylor continues to be a major liability at right tackle. He may eventually get Lawrence hurt.

4. Too many false start penalties.

5. Need to start working in rookies more. Cisco and Little especially need more playing time since they need to be integral parts of the team's future.


The Ugly:

1. Failing to kick the field goal early in the 4th quarter which would have given them a 7 point lead. Horrible decision which almost cost the team their first win in 21 games.

2. Jags should have put this game away much earlier. Nothing good ever comes easy to this team.
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#6
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2021, 06:38 AM by Craigukjag. Edited 1 time in total.)

Not that I’d of made the same decision as urban on4th and 2, I’m kicking the field goal, but I can at least see the reasoning on being overly aggressive. We all know the defence can’t stop anyone, we have james Robinson who's very reliable and I can see how it was tempting to go up two scores ,
that said I think the problem with the series was the pass on 3rd n 2 if they knew they were going for it on4th down I’m giving Robinson 2 attempts to get those two yards.

Calls will always be questioned when they don’t come off n praised when they do, we had a4th n 6 end of the first half the play before the touchdown throw if we fail there and they go up and score we’d all be criticising that call as well
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#7
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2021, 06:55 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

Of the four main parts of a football team, running attack, passing attack, run defense, and pass defense, it seems like running attack, passing attack, and run defense are all pretty decent, but pass defense is incredibly bad.  It's so bad I wonder if it's even possible to patch it up in any way this season.  I don't see an adjustment we can make.  Our linebackers are slow, our defensive backs are generally out of position and there's little pressure on the passer.  We got lucky the Dolphins decided for some unknown reason to run the ball on 4th and 1, when they were getting receivers wide open all game long, no one within 5 yards of them. 

The Dolphins were bone-headed idiots for calling a running play on 4th and 1.  We have a pretty good run defense and zero pass defense.  I don't care that it was only a yard, it would have been an easy first down for them passing the ball.  What a stroke of luck for us.
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#8
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2021, 10:28 AM by JagsorDie. Edited 1 time in total.)

Game ball goes to Brian Flores. Those two challenges to burn his timeouts were clutch.

I thought they might get one since we are the jags and giving obvious bad booth reviews seems par for the course for the refs now a days,
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#9

(10-18-2021, 07:35 AM)JagsorDie Wrote: Game ball goes to Brian Flores. Those two challenges to but his timeouts were clutch.

I thought they might get one since we are the jags and giving obvious bad booth reviews seems par for the course for the refs now a days,

Game ball to whatever Dolphins coach called a running play on 4th and 1, when we couldn't stop a pass to save our lives.  All they had to do was drop back and throw to the TE for an easy 1st down.
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#10

Flores was beside himself. He’s used to, and expects, the zebras to screw the Jags.
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#11

(10-17-2021, 06:59 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: The Good:

1. Lawrence continues to show that he will eventually become a legitimate franchise quarterback.

2. James Robinson was finally used correctly.

3. Agnew can continue to be an important part of the team's receiver group.

4. I didn't notice Cam Robinson which is always a good sign for an offensive lineman.

5. Matthew Wright kicked two of the biggest field goals in team history. It may have prevented the team from setting the record for most consecutive losses.

6. The call to go for it on 4th down at the end of the game rather than try a Hail Mary. By far, the best call of the season.


The Bad:

1. No sacks despite getting some pressure on Tua.

2. Secondary can't cover anybody. Good quarterbacks will feast on them all season.

3. J. Taylor continues to be a major liability at right tackle. He may eventually get Lawrence hurt.

4. Too many false start penalties.

5. Need to start working in rookies more. Cisco and Little especially need more playing time since they need to be integral parts of the team's future.


The Ugly:

1. Failing to kick the field goal early in the 4th quarter which would have given them a 7 point lead. Horrible decision which almost cost the team their first win in 21 games.

2. Jags should have put this game away much earlier. Nothing good ever comes easy to this team.

I thought that decision was flat-out stupid and against percentages.

However, what pissed me off more is the two play calls on 3rd and a little less than 2.  If you're determined to go for it on 4th down, why are you not going run-run and 3rd and 4th?
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#12

(10-18-2021, 08:24 AM)RicoTx Wrote:
(10-17-2021, 06:59 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: The Good:

1. Lawrence continues to show that he will eventually become a legitimate franchise quarterback.

2. James Robinson was finally used correctly.

3. Agnew can continue to be an important part of the team's receiver group.

4. I didn't notice Cam Robinson which is always a good sign for an offensive lineman.

5. Matthew Wright kicked two of the biggest field goals in team history. It may have prevented the team from setting the record for most consecutive losses.

6. The call to go for it on 4th down at the end of the game rather than try a Hail Mary. By far, the best call of the season.


The Bad:

1. No sacks despite getting some pressure on Tua.

2. Secondary can't cover anybody. Good quarterbacks will feast on them all season.

3. J. Taylor continues to be a major liability at right tackle. He may eventually get Lawrence hurt.

4. Too many false start penalties.

5. Need to start working in rookies more. Cisco and Little especially need more playing time since they need to be integral parts of the team's future.


The Ugly:

1. Failing to kick the field goal early in the 4th quarter which would have given them a 7 point lead. Horrible decision which almost cost the team their first win in 21 games.

2. Jags should have put this game away much earlier. Nothing good ever comes easy to this team.

I thought that decision was flat-out stupid and against percentages.

However, what pissed me off more is the two play calls on 3rd and a little less than 2.  If you're determined to go for it on 4th down, why are you not going run-run and 3rd and 4th?
100% agree.

In most situations, I'm all for going for it on 4th down. However in this case, kicking the field goal to go up 7 it a no brainer.
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#13

Good
Getting a win, and getting home from church in time to watch it live
Jags got calls to go their way? What is this madness?
TLaw continues to prove why he was the number one pick.
The run game looks great, I don't remember JRob showing this much burst last year
Wright is off to a good start, the first kick was a little sketchy, but the second was without a doubt. Let's hope he keeps that up.

Bad
Where the heck are the rest of our rookies? Looks bad if they can't stay healthy or are too lacking to merit any playing time.
Letting a cast of also-ran WR make plays all day. Could you imagine how different the game would have been with Parker and Fuller suited up?

Ugly
Watching Jawann Taylor. It's bad, real bad.

The I dunno
That slant. I didn't rewatch the end of game, but in real time, I felt we got SUPER lucky that a defender reacted and downed the receiver. Had they just let him sit on the turf, the clock could have run out on us before the officials whistled the play dead. If we ran the play into a defender so as to force contact when being downed, that's a little better, but I couldn't help but think that was banking on a LOT of luck to get downfield and attempt a literal last-second FG. It all worked out, though, @so the coaches are geniuses for the time being.@ I'd have probably just heaved up the hail mary with 0:05 on the clock.
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#14

at the end of the game you didn't need them to down Laviska, he can give himself up and call a time out. If Trevor doesn't have the Arm he has that doesn't happen.
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(10-17-2021, 06:21 PM)Eric1 Wrote: The Good - TLaw and JRob

The Bad - Coaching

The Ugly - We're entering the bye week now and this would have been the perfect time to dump the dead weight that is Urban Meyer  Wallbash

This So much of The ugly Wallbash

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#16

The Good:
Wright, Jones and Robinson

The Bad:
Not kicking the field goal to go up by 7.

The Ugly:
Pass defense (the interception was an underthrown ball missing an open WR)
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#17

(10-18-2021, 06:37 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: Not that I’d of made the same decision as urban on4th and 2, I’m kicking the field goal, but I can at least see the reasoning on being overly  aggressive. We all know the defence can’t stop anyone, we have james Robinson who's very reliable and I can see how it was tempting to go up two scores ,
that said I think the problem with the series was the pass on 3rd n 2 if they knew they were going for it on4th down I’m giving Robinson 2 attempts to get those two yards.

Calls will always be questioned when they don’t come off n praised when they do, we had a4th n 6 end of the first half the play before the touchdown throw if we fail there and they go up and score we’d all be criticising  that call as well

Yea I agree.  I can rationally argue both sides, but as I said in another thread I didnt have a problem with it.  Kick the field and it's still a one score game.  And I don't think the coaches (or many fans) had any belief we'd hold them to the 13 points they had at the time.  Score a TD there and the game is likely over.  But if you get stuffed on 4th down and you still have a good chance to win the game.  This is a team lacking talent that needs a few breaks to win games.  You get a chance for a potential kill shot.  I say take it.


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#18

What happened to the ravens style defense that was suppose to bring blitzes? This team is not good enough yet to sit back and bend all day. The blitzes need to come up the middle. The outside blitzing takes way too long to get there and never does if its even called
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(10-19-2021, 02:59 AM)Jag88 Wrote: What happened to the ravens style defense that was suppose to bring blitzes? This team is not good enough yet to sit back and bend all day. The blitzes need to come up the middle. The outside blitzing takes way too long to get there and never does if its even called

I've seen us blitz a lot, and it always gets picked up by the opposing offensive line.  No different from previous years.
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#20

(10-19-2021, 02:59 AM)Jag88 Wrote: What happened to the ravens style defense that was suppose to bring blitzes? This team is not good enough yet to sit back and bend all day. The blitzes need to come up the middle. The outside blitzing takes way too long to get there and never does if its even called

a good blitzing D has corners that can blanket receivers. We ain't there yet.
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