and right on cue, a jerk tries to profit from tragedy. Rather than setting up a go fund me page, or offering support, this piece of turd only sees $$

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-tru...e-t-shirts

Incredibly distasteful, but payback is a [BLEEP], huh? 

The left sowed the seeds for this incivility. Now it’s being turned on them.

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and right on cue, a jerk tries to profit from tragedy. Rather than setting up a go fund me page, or offering support, this piece of turd only sees $$

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-tru...e-t-shirts

Incredibly distasteful, but payback is a [BLEEP], huh? 

The left sowed the seeds for this incivility. Now it’s being turned on them.

While true and well deserved, I'd like to see the Right rise above the gutter mentality of the Left.  Regardless of politics, it's incredibly insensitive to the victims and their families.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

Incredibly distasteful, but payback is a [BLEEP], huh? 

The left sowed the seeds for this incivility. Now it’s being turned on them.

While true and well deserved, I'd like to see the Right rise above the gutter mentality of the Left.  Regardless of politics, it's incredibly insensitive to the victims and their families.

I agree but it's difficult to avoid after years of being savaged by the left with Alec Baldwin being one of the primary antagonists.

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It's sounding like charges might be near.  As far as civil charges Baldwin's production company is going to be sued big time though insurance will end up paying that out.  As far as criminal charges I could see Baldwin being charged with involuntary manslaughter.  I could see the assistant director facing the same charge.  The armorer should probably face some kind of charge for neglect.

Sadly, this never should have happened had proper safety protocol been followed.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

I dont like Baldwin but this is hardly criminal; it's a tragic accident.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I dont like Baldwin bug this is hardly criminal; it's a tragic acvident.

Indeed.  It would be a challenge to prove a willful or depraved indifference to human life to make an involuntary manslaughter charge stick to Baldwin.

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I dont like Baldwin but this is hardly criminal; it's a tragic accident.

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It's sounding like charges might be near.  As far as civil charges Baldwin's production company is going to be sued big time though insurance will end up paying that out.  As far as criminal charges I could see Baldwin being charged with involuntary manslaughter.  I could see the assistant director facing the same charge.  The armorer should probably face some kind of charge for neglect.

Sadly, this never should have happened had proper safety protocol been followed.

I doubt he was paying insurance rates for live ammo on set. I bet they don't pay.

I dont like Baldwin bug this is hardly criminal; it's a tragic acvident.

Indeed.  It would be a challenge to prove a willful or depraved indifference to human life to make an involuntary manslaughter charge stick to Baldwin.

If they have proof he point the gun at her and pulled the trigger, you can charge him with something. I don't think anyone does jail time but you could charge him.

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It's sounding like charges might be near.  As far as civil charges Baldwin's production company is going to be sued big time though insurance will end up paying that out.  As far as criminal charges I could see Baldwin being charged with involuntary manslaughter.  I could see the assistant director facing the same charge.  The armorer should probably face some kind of charge for neglect.

Sadly, this never should have happened had proper safety protocol been followed.

I doubt he was paying insurance rates for live ammo on set. I bet they don't pay.

Indeed.  It would be a challenge to prove a willful or depraved indifference to human life to make an involuntary manslaughter charge stick to Baldwin.

If they have proof he point the gun at her and pulled the trigger, you can charge him with something. I don't think anyone does jail time but you could charge him.

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Of course he can be charged, but it wont stick, so it's a waste of everyone's time if they do charge him.  The only people who benefit are lawyers.

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Whether anyone is charged with a serious crime is debatable. The more I read about this the more it becomes apparent the entire process of gun use on movie sets is astoundingly lax.
I predict a regulatory overhaul of how guns are used on a movie set spearheaded by the insurance industry. If for nothing else, the litigious money paid out will be motivation enough.

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Maybe. Hollywood has no shortage of money. Traditionally, they just sweep things under the rug.

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Sure, there should be several civil actions, but criminal charges are a non-starter IMO.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

He's likely in trouble as he's also the Producer and therefore responsible for the Armorer on the set.

It is fishy the victims husbands ties to the Clintons. She was also previously an investigative journalist from the Ukraine. She grew up in the Arctic Navy base @ Murmansk. Where Red October was launched from...and who was in Red October?


I'm just glad Travis Hemmel from Vikings wasn't the one hit. I like that guy.

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Guns don’t kill people. Alec Baldwin does.

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Of course he is the victim. You can not ignore the mental trauma associated with this type of accident.  As it has been said, if he has been given a gun and been told it is a cold gun. He has an armorer on set to take responsibility for the guns.

No he is not a victim.  His negligence was part of the reason for this tragedy.  The armorer has some liability, be she is not the sole blame or cause of this tragedy.  I outlined above the failures in the chain-of-custody of the firearm.  All three persons involved are to blame up to and including Alec Baldwin.

I know, you should always check a gun that's handed to you to see if it's loaded but not everyone is necessarily going to know that. He believed it was a movie prop and it had been declared safe. His job/responsibility is to deliver his lines, not validate that the props are safe to use.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

No he is not a victim.  His negligence was part of the reason for this tragedy.  The armorer has some liability, be she is not the sole blame or cause of this tragedy.  I outlined above the failures in the chain-of-custody of the firearm.  All three persons involved are to blame up to and including Alec Baldwin.

I know, you should always check a gun that's handed to you to see if it's loaded but not everyone is necessarily going to know that. He believed it was a movie prop and it had been declared safe. His job/responsibility is to deliver his lines, not validate that the props are safe to use.

His acting job is to deliver lines, his producing job is to ensure union policies and safety are followed. He is responsible for the site and everything that happens there. He may not be criminally responsible, could be for some type of negligence, but he certainly is in civil court.

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I know, you should always check a gun that's handed to you to see if it's loaded but not everyone is necessarily going to know that. He believed it was a movie prop and it had been declared safe. His job/responsibility is to deliver his lines, not validate that the props are safe to use.

His acting job is to deliver lines, his producing job is to ensure union policies and safety are followed. He is responsible for the site and everything that happens there. He may not be criminally responsible, could be for some type of negligence, but he certainly is in civil court.

His production company could be accountable, I agree. But he's not responsible for checking the props.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

His acting job is to deliver lines, his producing job is to ensure union policies and safety are followed. He is responsible for the site and everything that happens there. He may not be criminally responsible, could be for some type of negligence, but he certainly is in civil court.

His production company could be accountable, I agree. But he's not responsible for checking the props.

Tell me how racism made the bullet real. I'm sure you have a theory.

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His production company could be accountable, I agree. But he's not responsible for checking the props.

Tell me how racism made the bullet real. I'm sure you have a theory.

Instead, how about you explain to me what you're gibbering about?

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

His production company could be accountable, I agree. But he's not responsible for checking the props.

Tell me how racism made the bullet real. I'm sure you have a theory.

Does Ronster have 2 accounts?!

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