(05-11-2022, 10:13 AM)Mikey Wrote:

(05-10-2022, 06:34 PM)Bullseye Wrote: These quotes are from the article you cited.

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Both of these quotes indicate he takes at least some responsibility in his departures.

What should be of greater concern is NOT his alleged lack of personal responsibility, but the fact that some three years after he was traded, we STILL haven't replaced the production of a guy most fans here stated overvalued himself.

What SHOULD be of greater concern is in the two seasons we didn't have him on the team at all after we traded him, we've won a total of FOUR (4) games.

What SHOULD be of greater concern is once again, the team has used two premium draft choice on reaches for guys the team hoped would replace his productivity (Chaisson and Walker).

What's interesting is that the people dismissing Ngakoue and Ramsey for asking for too much money have applauded paying Christian Kirk his contract.

It seems the crime isn't being overpaid...but being outspoken.

I'd say it's a little lenient to say those quotes are taking responsibility.

The first quote sounds like the old "I am sorry that people were offended" type of pseudo-apology. It's as dismissive as one can get without just owning their words irrespective of others' reaction to them. The second statement is seemingly laying part of the blame on scheme rather than the player in the scheme; it may be a player coming to terms with their own pursuit of maximum pay not yielding the best results, but it can also be that the player is not seen as vital enough for the team to either rework the scheme (as we have done with Josh Allen) or to avoid seeking other players who are either more affordable, better fits, or both (Myles Jack).

I'll admit his statements aren't brazen denial that he is in no way part of the equation that leads to his frequent change of teams, but I can't say I see this as a guy who is humbled and turning a corner into a more mature stance on his prospective career remaining.

I don't see what's so "lenient" about the second quote where he admits he didn't do his research about Baltimore.

What do you expect him to do?  Wear sackcloth?!?

When the relationship between Ngakoue and the Jaguars deteriorated, fans on this board stated they were ready to move on from him.  He's been traded.  The team moved on from him.  Yet the Ngakoue bashing continues.


The hiring of Urban Meyer alone led to far more embarrassment and angst for Jaguars fans than Ngakoue has his entire career.

Ngakoue had nothing to do with that Iowa strength and conditioning coach. 

Ngakoue had nothing to do with bringing Tebow aboard.

Ngakoue had nothing to do with Urban Meyer staying behind after the Bengals game and the subsequent videos and false denials.

Ngakoue had nothing to do with Urban Meyer's lies about Robinson's carries or Cisco's playing time.

Ngakoue had nothing to do with Urban Meyer not knowing who Aaron Donald is.

Ngakoue had nothing to do with Meyer kicking Josh Lambo and the subsequent lawsuit that continues to heap more scorn, ridicule and bad publicity on this organization from the national media months after UM was dismissed.

Ngakoue had nothing to do with the complete lack of development amongst the Jaguars rookies last year.

Ngakoue had no responsibility whatsoever for the combined FOUR (4) wins this team has amassed the last two seasons.

Ngakoue had no responsibility whatsoever for the at times painfully protracted coaching search, nor does he have any responsibility for Khan's refusal to fire Baalke and his refusal to add an EVP over him when he said he would.

Know who has responsibility for all of those things happening?

Khan.

Yet Ngakoue is more of a villain in some eyes than Khan, Baalke or Meyer.

It makes no sense at all.

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