(06-04-2022, 12:41 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: (06-04-2022, 12:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: It has everything to do with the guy when you already have him on the roster and he was producing, you foolishly trade him away for picks to prove to him just how replaceable he is, and you wind up with K'Lavon Chaisson=who, BTW-is super motivated now that the team drafted yet another guy to replace Yannick.
That's what...two top 20 picks since 2020 in the attempt to replace Yan?
Nahh. No relation to Yann's departure what so ever. Nope. Absolutely none!
How much better and more balanced would this team be if it spent picks on another position and still had a guy who consistently put up 8-10 sacks a year?
Suppose, instead of Chaissing after Yan's replacement, we drafted Justin Jefferson. Would we have had to spend up to $84 million on kirk?!? What if instead of trying to show Ramsey how replaceable he is by drafting Henderson, what if we drafted Tristan Wirfs or your guy Becton?
What if, instead of still trying to make up for getting rid of Yan, we didn't draft Walker #1 overall? Would we have picked #1 overall? Wat if we focused more on the offensive line to protect Trevor Lawrence, or was able to trade back (even at a lower price) and land one of the numerous WRs available?
Nope. Trading away talented players has absolutely NOTHING to do with poor drafting.
Shaking my head in dismay.
You're are helping make my point, Dave was drafting for position, you never do that. Always take the BPA, we had the wrong guy at GM. I'd take Fatukasi and Oluakun at 20 mil anyway over Yawn
(06-04-2022, 12:40 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Bullseye, you can't have any meaningful discourse with someone who is willfully disingenuous in an attempt to "not be wrong."
He's just gonna' keep spouting the same garbage even if he knows it's not accurate.
Lol, or you 2 could be wrong? The Vikings, Ravens, and Raiders have helped proven that. I guess the Colts are the smartest team lol
(06-04-2022, 12:38 PM)Bullseye Wrote: That's EXACTLY what they did! They drafted the WORST they could find in Chaisson. They got 2 sacks out of him in 2 seasons...nowhere CLOSE to Yan's productivity, even if you think Ngakoue is the absolute worst run defender in the league. Then this year they spent the #1 overall pick on a guy who hasn't played edge rusher, and who had less than 10 career sacks on an absolutely loaded Georgia team.
But you're going to tell me getting rid of Yan had nothing to do with poor draft decisions and the team having the worst record in the league for two years running?!?
Seriously?!?
I'm talking about Walker, Dave drafted for need, that was his problem. That will get one fired every time. Dave was a bad drafter before he traded Yawn
If Dave was drafting for position or need, don't you think artificially creating the need by letting those players walk didn't provide temptation/extra incentive to do just that?!? You said there was no link between letting guys like Yan and Ramsey go and poor drafting, and then you say you never draft for need. The Jaguars created their own needs by getting rid of productive players, then drafted to fill those needs they needlessly created.
They let CB Jalen Ramsey leave, and followed that decision up by drafting CB CJ Henderson 9th overall, signing Griffin to a free agent deal, then drafting Campbell at the top of the 2md round.
I've already discussed the foolish efforts to replace Yan.
They cut Fournette and wound up spending a first round pick on Etienne.
That's three insstances of cutting or trading productive players that contributed to the last winning team we had, then drafting almost immediately in the first round the following draft to try to fill the vacuum created by those transactions.
How in the hell can you deny the link between those transactions and the subsequent draft picks?!?
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
