(05-29-2022, 10:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(05-29-2022, 10:04 AM)mikesez Wrote: States with higher rates of gun ownership have higher rates of gun violence.

(1) When you remove self harm/suicide what happens to that stat? (2) What about Finland and Norway that have similar levels of ownership but drastically less crime? (3) No, the gun is not the issue, the people are, and (4) you won't fix that by passing laws any more than drunk driving laws and driver's license laws stop auto fatalities.

(1) Self harm is significant, but the correlation remains even after you remove that. 
(2) Finland and Norway have about half the rate of gun ownership when compared to the US.  
(3) There can be more than one issue at a time,
(4) captivating dunked on this point pretty thoroughly.

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(05-29-2022, 10:48 AM)Sneakers Wrote:

(05-29-2022, 10:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: When you remove self harm/suicide what happens to that stat? What about Finland and Norway that have similar levels of ownership but drastically less crime? No, the gun is not the issue, the people are, and you won't fix that by passing laws any more than drunk driving laws and driver's license laws stop auto fatalities.

He has no idea, nor does he care to.  He just looked for a "statistic" on the internet that supports his argument.

Just because you have no idea what I'm talking about doesn't mean I don't.  
Stop mistaking your profound ignorance for common sense or knowledge.
And if you don't like those personal insults, don't dish em out.

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