(05-30-2022, 09:51 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(05-30-2022, 09:27 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Biden has already made the jump from banning assault rifles to banning the most popular caliber handgun in the U.S. That didn't take long. I also hate to tell him that a 9mm round is really not a high caliber round, but I'm sure that's irrelevant to his argument. 

Biden calls 9mm ‘high-caliber weapons,’ suggests banning them | Fox News

Biden probably never knew what different calibers are.  But he's certainly forgotten if he ever knew.

(05-31-2022, 04:23 AM)captivating Wrote:

(05-30-2022, 03:51 PM)wrong_box Wrote: the "thing" that caused death wasnt the gun. The gun will not do anything that the person in possession of it makes it do. But, using your analogy, heroine, meth, cocaine among others cause death. Why dont we ban them? Oh wait, they are already banned. Guess that didnt work. Running over people with a vehicle is a cause of death, ban that too. How about banning knives since stabbings cause death. We should ban drownings because they cause death. This may sound extreme, but the premise is sound. Banning things doesnt preclude them from happening. I have multiple firearms that sit in my closet and around my home and have had for 30 plus years and as of yet have not killed a single human being. Blaming the gun is total Bull [BLEEP]. Did the gun kill anyone? No the person with the intent to kill someone With the gun caused death. BIG difference.

What garbage!  Take the gun away, and the Uvaldi shooter wouldn't have killed anyone.  I have never seen anyone die from someone pointing their finger and shouting 'bang!!"

Stop kidding yourself with the guns don't cause death lie.  Hunting is a pretty useless thing to do if guns don't cause death.

Total Bull [BLEEP]! A firearm doesnt do anything on its own. It does not load itself, it does not aim itself, it does not transport itself, it does not fire itself. It takes a person to make a fire arm kill. The firearm is not to blame, the person making the firearm kill is what is to blame. Personal responsibility and a deliberate and intentional act by a person  is what causes death. Stop blaming inanimate objects for causing death.

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