“The Deep State”, aptly and dubiously dubbed by the Master troll always had an abstract meaning for me.  Ya, I knew non elected officials were the ones running the government, but really wasn’t clear on what exactly that meant. I do now…..

“Two weeks before the 2020 general election, on October 21, 2020, Donald Trump issued an executive order (E.O. 13957) on “Creating Schedule F in the Excepted Service.””

“The gradual rise of this 4th branch of government – which is very much the most powerful branch – has reduced the American political process to mere theater as compared with the real activity of government, which rests with the permanent bureaucracy.

Any new president can hire the heads of agencies and they can hire staff, which are known as political appointees.

These 4,000 political appointees ostensibly rule 432 agencies (as listed by the Federal Register) as well as some 2.9 million employees (aside from the military and postal service) that effectively inhibit permanent jobs.

This permanent state – sometimes called the deep state – knows the ropes and the processes of government far better than any temporary political appointee, thus reducing the appointed jobs to cosmetic positions for the press to hound while the real actions of government take place behind the scenes.”

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-asto...chedule-f/

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

It's worse because the president can't just appoint anyone to these positions and have them confirmed. The intelligence agencies have created a 4th branch and they control who is even allowed to be nominated.

Without shutting these agencies down there is no hope of ever draining the swamp.

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It's worse because the president can't just appoint anyone to these positions and have them confirmed. The intelligence agencies have created a 4th branch and they control who is even allowed to be nominated.

Without shutting these agencies down there is no hope of ever draining the swamp.

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That’s why the next POTUS (Trump) needs to implement schedule F and let the draining begin..

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

It's worse because the president can't just appoint anyone to these positions and have them confirmed. The intelligence agencies have created a 4th branch and they control who is even allowed to be nominated.

Without shutting these agencies down there is no hope of ever draining the swamp.

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That’s why the next POTUS (Trump) needs to implement schedule F and let the draining begin..

Profit or Loss from Farming?

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That’s why the next POTUS (Trump) needs to implement schedule F and let the draining begin..

Profit or Loss from Farming?

No, the article describes exactly what schedule F was meant to do.

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

Profit or Loss from Farming?

No, the article describes exactly what schedule F was meant to do.

I understand the motive behind it but I think it's a terrible idea.  If the president can fire 88% of the federal workforce then the whole federal workforce basically becomes political appointees.  Not only that but it would take years to fill those millions of jobs that would then need to be filled.  And by the time they got all those jobs filled with either qualified or un qualified people, there'd be another election and millions of federal jobs would flip again.  And how would you persuade anyone to take one of those jobs when they know they're going to be fired in four years?

So you can see for many reasons the whole idea is very unworkable.

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No, the article describes exactly what schedule F was meant to do.

I understand the motive behind it but I think it's a terrible idea.  If the president can fire 88% of the federal workforce then the whole federal workforce basically becomes political appointees.  Not only that but it would take years to fill those millions of jobs that would then need to be filled.  And by the time they got all those jobs filled with either qualified or un qualified people, there'd be another election and millions of federal jobs would flip again.  And how would you persuade anyone to take one of those jobs when they know they're going to be fired in four years?

So you can see for many reasons the whole idea is very unworkable.

Well, the status quo of allowing unelected, long term bureaucrats continue to make a mockery of our political system is unacceptable. Fire them all!! 

It’s time to clean house. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Too many duplicitous agencies with almost no accountability; that cannot continue.

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

No, the article describes exactly what schedule F was meant to do.

I understand the motive behind it but I think it's a terrible idea.  If the president can fire 88% of the federal workforce then the whole federal workforce basically becomes political appointees.  Not only that but it would take years to fill those millions of jobs that would then need to be filled.  And by the time they got all those jobs filled with either qualified or un qualified people, there'd be another election and millions of federal jobs would flip again.  And how would you persuade anyone to take one of those jobs when they know they're going to be fired in four years?

So you can see for many reasons the whole idea is very unworkable.

Why do you think they need to be filled?

Either Congress passes laws and budget to fill them or the States fill the roles as they should have been doing. Most of the agencies do nothing that the States or Military should be doing.

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