(01-10-2024, 07:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(01-10-2024, 03:48 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Well, they were committed to running ZBS and Doug clearly asked for athletic, mobile linemen. Neither of those guys fit the common traits for that scheme. 

Personally - I don't think they were wise to limit themselves that way - but I 100% believe that's what happened. 

I also don't think they selected Bigsby or Strange because they were the highest grades on their board at the time either. I think they reached to plug in perceived holes in the roster and they failed (at least in the short term - both players may yet succeed)

The Bills run the same zone blocking scheme that we do and they had no problem taking Torrence and he has fit right in and won the starting spot in training camp so im not buying that.

  I do think they would be better in a power scheme but they are both just good lineman and can be successful in both.  I'm not sure what type of scheme the Browns run but Jones can maul people.  If you can maul people you will clear out space, those 2 players are good enough to be good in any scheme.  Cam Robinson is best in a power scheme yet the extended him.  He had a really good rookie year and we led the league in rushing that year.  

  I think they absolutely had those 2 higher on their board and they specifically said they weren't going to draft for need and it showed.  Oline was a much bigger need than RB and TE.  Their bigboard just sucks is what it boils down to.

You can convince yourself that Doug and Baalke haven't drafted traits in OL if you want but you literally just sat here and pointed out that they passed on a 364 pound guard and a 375 pound tackle when Baalke JUST ACQUIRED a tackle who weighs SIXTY pounds less and a guard who weighs FIFTY pounds less. 

OK?


Seems pretty obvious they are after something different than those guys you think they just passed on due to grade. 
It was traits. 


Also - The bills run more power than we do. They roster a FB for Pete's sake. Think about that. 
They have a line that finished #10 in run black win rate while ours finished 27th. 

They weren't afraid to go after big guys and still utilize elements of a ZBS.
Our staff had other plans.

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