(12-14-2022, 11:24 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(12-14-2022, 11:11 AM)carp8dm Wrote: The Bortles signing after 2017 was absolutely an albatross that was tied around the neck of the franchise.  We caused ourselves cap hell by giving Bortles the contract he got after that playoff run.

Anybody that knew anything realized that Bortles was Garrard.  Einhorn was Finckle.  And yet we all watched as we made the exact same mistake that we did 10 years earlier.

The Bortles extension was one of the biggest mistakes of this franchise.  Any fan that had lived through the Garrard contract hell, could see the Bortles contract as the same thing. And yet...  Coughlin, in all his "wisdom" decided to go for it. 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-year-ago/

Tom [BLEEP] Coughlin.  Worst Front Office dude ever.  But, like I said.  He destroyed the franchise and it resulted in Trevor Lawrence coming out from the ashes of that idiocy.  Coughlin crapped all over us.  And all that guano fertilized a tank job that finally bore fruit.

Kudos for multiple Ace Ventura references.

However, have a little respect for Coughlin as he helped put Jacksonville on the map. Did he make a mistake with extending Bortles? No doubt.

1st off. thanks!  I'm a kid of the 90s.

2nd...

I get it, a lot of you guys have mad respect for Coughlin.  I just don't.  

But I can understand why you respect him so much.  I didn't grow up in Jacksonville.  I grew up a Marino die hard and I lived most my life in the rocky mountains.  I didn't move to the Jacksonville area untill 2007.  And that's when I became a die hard Jaguar fan.

So for me, Coughlin was never someone to be praised.  Yeah, he was a good HC for the Giants, but that's all he is for me (and probably many others).  The effect Coughlin had as the EVP for Shad Khan is all most of us 2007 and beyond jaguars fans know.  

As an older guy, I know he's a decent person and a good family man.  And I respect that.  But that doesn't mean I can't lament and criticize his professional failures when he came back to the Jaguars.  It's fair to praise the private person and yet criticize the public man's failures.  

That's just how life works.

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