(12-21-2022, 10:24 AM)carp8dm Wrote: Bros...  Ya'll are crazy... 


If you have been a fan long enough to have to defend Gabbert, Bortles, Foles, and Minshew, you eventually have no concept of what real QB talent even looks like anymore.  And then here comes the Prince that was Promised.  (Ignoring the Meyer Meltdown) We come into 2022 and he's looking good.  But woah, here comes the witching month of October and it results in ROCK BOTTOM for Trevor's career.

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Per Bill Walsh, most NFL coaches don't know how to identify or develop QBs properly.  If that's true, then I am in good company when it comes to the QB position, even though it would insult those coaches to group me with them.

To that end, the highlighted statement above begs inquiry.

The 2000s have been dominated by two coaches:  Bill Belichick and Andy Reid.

Both are first ballot Hall of Fame coaches without question.

They have dominated the NFL during this time because thay have had QBs who, along with Belichick and Reid, are virtually guaranteed enshrinement into Canton once their football careers are over.

My question is these two Hall of Fame Caliber coaches had two of the all time great QBs under their control as rookies,  but neither Belichick nor Reid started Brady or Mahomes for most, if not all of their rookie seasons.

Why not?

Why would two coaches who are two of the best ever at their positions keep superior QB talents in the bench the first year in their QBs careers?

Did they have less of an interest in playing Hall of fame talent at the QB position?  Did they NOT want to maximize the winning ib 2000 and 2017, respectively?

Were they somehow punishing Brady and Mahomes?

Were they followiling some sort of externally imposed mandate regarding the playing of superior talent?

"Thrill me with your acumen."

Now before you or anyone else go there, I am the first to say I am nowhere NEAR the same galaxy as Belichick or Reid in terms of football knowledge and I make no assertion otherwise.

But I'm curious how defenses of young QBs in Leftwich, Gabbert and Bortles who wound up being not so successful negates the reality of the overwhelming majority of Hall of Fame QBs from the 1970s on the league has seen.

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