(12-28-2022, 02:18 PM)carp8dm Wrote:

(12-28-2022, 11:13 AM)Kane Wrote: I got news for ya bud, that ain't on Hack.
Russ, and I was a big DangeRuss guy, fell off a cliff. He's supposedly a bad team mate and with team 3 around awfully hard to work with... this was going on in Seattle which is why they moved on and are a better team minus an elite QB. Weird

whatever type of cancer Russ is.  And there is no doubt Russ is that passive-agressive, "I'm better than you, and my position within the organization proves it"  toxic type of Piece of  Dog [BLEEP] locker room disease an organization can rarely remove without destroying the entire team.

But do not try and lessen the fact that Nathaniel Hackett is a worthless offensive mind.  I've seen comatose Alzheimer patients who had severe head trauma from a head on car accident and were then given a XBox controller come up with better play calling on Madden than Hackett has in Jacksonville and Denver.

Hackett is the epitome of a nepotism hire that just continued to fail upward.

I wasn't saying Hack was a good offensive coach or not (however he went to the playoffs with Bortles iirc and was OC during a Rodgers MVP season)
Just not going to blame him for whatever Russ is doing right now. She'll of his former self so quick.

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(12-28-2022, 02:19 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:

(12-28-2022, 10:00 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: The Russell Wilson thing is perplexing.

There seem to be elements of time taking its toll on the player, and elements of "I just made 250 million and have 8 bathrooms in all three of my houses, this nobody coach can't tell me what to do"

I heard an analyst say that Wilson loves to improvise and leave the scripted play when the first read isn't there.
But that his best production came when OC Schottenheimer forced him to do that much less. 
He doesn't have anyone forcing him to play within the play book and the play book was also suspect this year. 
Now add in that he can't run around and improvise as well as he once did and you arrive at our current state. 

Dude seems to be operating in his own little alternate reality. 

 Strange predicament for the broncos, and now their owner is saying the next HC will report directly to him, not the GM. 
ooooff.

It has never felt so good to have landed a really good QB, a really good coach, and to have an owner who will spend to the cap to get it right.
 Now we just have to manage the cap and TLs next deal. 
World's better than a yet another rebuild.

Well at least now we can stop complaining about taking Anger over Wilson in the 3rd right. 

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(12-28-2022, 11:13 AM)Kane Wrote: I got news for ya bud, that ain't on Hack.
Russ, and I was a big DangeRuss guy, fell off a cliff. He's supposedly a bad team mate and with team 3 around awfully hard to work with... this was going on in Seattle which is why they moved on and are a better team minus an elite QB. Weird

I have no doubt in my mind that Russ is a complete weirdo and was taking a step back but even his stats last year would suggest he was leaps and bounds better than he is now. Hackett is a bad coach, we saw that first hand here.. let's not pretend because he had Aaron Rodgers for a couple years that he's good. 

The ole Byron Leftwich syndrome hit us again.

He had Bortles and went to the AFCCG.

I mean... the players matter but you'd think Russ would offer more than Bortles and he wasn't given even a full season. 
He was a scape goat imo.
But I'm not banging the table saying he.deserved the gig either.

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