(06-11-2023, 04:52 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(06-11-2023, 09:43 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Oh..I guess statistically speaking sure, but he was never gonna be good. At least with Trevors poor first season, you still knew he had the talent to become something.

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Interesting pronoun usage in the underlined portion.

That analysis would be a correct observation if you exclude yourself from the "you."

But I assure you, I didn't just suddenly and arbitrarily decide to malign your character here when I say you didn't like Trevor Lawrence.  I've debated the others in this forum enough to know they typically debate in good faith.

You regularly bashed Trevor Lawrence and doubted his ability to ever develop into anything.

I'm not the only one with that recollection.

I bashed Trevors individual game performances on many occasions, both in his rookie season and even part of the last year. But with that being said, where I pointed out his wild inconsistencys with accuracy/decision making (which were even visible to everyone watching his most recent game in which he threw 4 really bad interceptions) I never said he didn't have talent. 

This is where the disconnect between myself and most of this board becomes apparent. When it comes to being a quarterback I could careless about your physical attributes untill I see them turn into production on the field. The Colts new rookie comes to mind, I still can't believe he was even drafted based on his ability to play QB (Trevor is nothing like him, this is an extreme example tho)

I did have my doubt, mainly concerning issues that he had prior to joining the NFL, and has continued to have since he's been here. However, like most human beings theres always room for improvement and when he started showing improvement I gave him his props. MOST QBs specfically do not turn the table and fix there issues that's why it's so incredibly hard to find a true franchise elite QB. 

I watched every single play Trevor made at Clemson, so you can imagine my dissapointment when the worst of what I saw there, became the majority of what I saw in his rookie season. I never doubted he had a big arm, I never doubted he was physically gifted and could make throws.. but I also wasn't blinded by the teal sunglasses and pretending the issues didn't exist like some on this board. He STILL makes the same mistakes. They are very specific issues, I know someone will say something like "yeah but every qb has a bad throw/game yada yada" But when you look deeper, notice he makes the same mistakes in the same situations, thats where it worries me. 

He has gotten significantly better.. which I've been happy about. But to disregard the things I said is just ignorant, and because he got better dosen't mean the issues never existed to begin with.

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(06-13-2023, 08:35 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: How much did they have to pay to have two NFL greats lie about soccer?

Soccer gotta be the most mind numbingly boring sport in the history of the world.

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