(06-17-2023, 10:33 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(06-17-2023, 10:19 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: The simplest definition of franchise QB, to me, is that most NFL teams would trade their QB for him without hesitation.

Is the without hesitation part that's critical. If most GMs have to be talked into making the move then a team doesn't really have a franchise QB.

Elite is another level, Trevor's in the conversation for elite, now. If he picks up where he left off in the last half of 2022 this year statistically (30+ TD, single digit interceptions) and lifts the team to more wins they don't seem like they should get (Ravens, raiders, cowboys, and chargers playoffs are examples of the kind of win I'm talking about) then there will be broad recognition of being elite by the end of this season.

That's not a bad definition.  It's more mathematical.  Roughly half the starters in the league would be franchise QBs by that definition.  Not as exclusive of a group.

Roughly half if there's a strong and obvious difference between the halves.

Tannehill has been a 12-15 type of QB in tennessee. Do you think the gm of the team with the 17th best QB would trade their guy for him without hesitation? It's hard to say. Who is the 17th best qb? Winston? Garoppolo? Would most GMs trade their guy for him, contract and all, without hesitation?

Most likely the will be some disagreement around guys in the 10-16 range, and you won't have the other 16-22 teams thinking they would make the move without hesitation.

Franchise QB, by my definition means a guy is clearly and roundly recognized as well above the middle of the road mark as a starter.

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