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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)
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06-18-2023, 02:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-18-2023, 02:16 PM by ChrisJagBoy. Edited 1 time in total.)
(06-16-2023, 03:35 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:(06-16-2023, 03:19 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: My words yes, but what did they mean?This will be my last time responding to this argument but the bolded is the biggest reason for me that you catch flack. Words are being miscontriued sir, I'll try and be respectful and explain what I mean. Did I bash him for his performance his rookie season? Absolutely. Why? Because he made the same mistakes I watched him make at Clemson, not generalizations like "Oh he threw an inaccurate pass" but very specific patterns of issues. I'm not going to list all of them for the 400th time but for example, in Clemson he loved to roll out to his left and throw off balance, even when most of the time he had no need to even move from the pocket. He had a bad tendency to fly passes over his WRs heads when doing so, he also had an issue with high passes in general but specificly during his roll outs to the left, and we saw him throw multiple picks as a jaguar doing the same thing. With that being said, Yes having Urban Fired as his coach did him no favors, yes he had an awful supporting cast, and yes he was a rookie still learning. I did not say I have no faith in him as a player to ever be good, the thread these clowns continously quote me from was about the 2022 upcoming season at the time, to which I didn't see anything in 2021 that made me think "wow hes gonna be special this year" nor did I think the team in general instilled much confidence for that specific year. My initial argument was that the hype/comparisions of him and Luck or Manning were absurd because both Luck and Manning have very little flaws in their game if any coming out the draft while Trevor, if you actually paid any attention to his games past highlight videos absolutely did. I said on record that I'd compare him as a prospect more to Justin Herbert or Deshaun Watson than Manning or Luck, and I think that holds true to this day. The issue with this entire conversation is the mods decided that I called him a bust or had no faith in him to ever succeed but this is just not true, theres a difference in saying he will never be good, and saying he will never be as great as he's being hyped to be if he can't fix problems x-y-z. My pre draft assessment wasn't that he wasn't worthy of the #1 pick, I said on this board I would take him.. look at my thread history, I made a thread when we took him.. I said I was cautiously optimistic.. I didn't say I wanted to burn my jaguar jerserys because we drafted a bum. I was more aware of the talent he possesed than likely 99% of the people on this board, but I was also aware of his glaring weaknesses. When he threw a 1 yard int on the goal line two weeks in a row for example, most of you probably were scratching your head.. for me I wasn't surprised because I've seen him do this A LOT at Clemson. He was the kind of guy who would throw a 50 yard dime on 3rd and long, then throw a 3 yard int on 1st down to a linebacker directly infront of him. He was like Jekyl and hyde in college, tho he got bailed out plenty by having guys like Tee Higgins who were being covered by guys who probably sell insurance now. Anyway, rant over. The poster of this board that seemed to copy my analysis of Trevor Lawrence word for word for awhile but then also give the opinion out that he was a bust was JaguarMVP and that aussie guy. And i'm 100% certain that whenever this "beef" started, that's what happened. Because lets not forget.. the mods claimed I was ozjohnny at one point, only to retract it later. |
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