(07-30-2023, 10:00 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Yes he is a franchise QB. He’s a superstar QB right up there with Burrow, Herbert, Allen, etc

*Mahommes is in another universe.

Nobody thought Josh Allen was a superstar QB going into his 3rd season. He had to go out and prove it, and he did. This is what I want from Lawrence before I'll concede to saying he's for sure worth a top 5 QB contract. 

Herberts first 2 seasons absolutely blow Trevors first 2 seasons out of the water, not comparable. 

Joe Burrows second season was elite, and he took his team to a superbowl, not comparable.

Herbert threw 38 TDs in his second season, which is 1 more than Lawrence has in 2 full seasons. Not comparable. 


He still needs to prove he's worth a top tier contract. 


And yes, I do think Lawrence will be our franchise QB.. but do I think he's cemented himself as one thus far? no. "Franchise QB" has different definitions depending on who you ask, to me a franchise QB is a guy you expect to have around for 10+ years and is the kind of QB that makes you a contender every year. So no, as of July 30th 2023 I would not classify him in that category.

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(07-30-2023, 11:01 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(07-30-2023, 09:47 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Context is extremely important, I said in that thread I saw no hope for the 2022 season, it was a thread regarding the 2022 season. Trevor wasn't the only thing that made me think the season would be a wash. 

But, Trevor played horrible in 2021, he did not show much promise in his rookie year thus no, I had no faith in the team winning much in 2022. You seem to be trying to spin this into me saying "I have no faith Trevor will ever be good" which is inaccurate, like I said. Go back to that thread and read the title/discussion. This was not a thread about whether or not Trevor will ever be good, it was about the season in general.

LOL

Sure...

What about this one? 

"It really blows that we have to go into the offseason with very little hope. I thought maybe Lawrence would at least show some signs of being that guy throughout an entire 17 game season but I have no faith."

This was after the 2021 patriots tilt and you were going on specifically about Lawrence and calling someone who defended him a Lawrence apologist in the post prior to this one. 

You want to invent some phony "context" for that one too? 

How do you not get tired of lying about this stuff? It's so weird.

If you read what I said in the post you quoted, you'd notice I said the exact same thing. He gave me no reason for hope for the 2022 season. He was dog awful in 2021, only ignorant biased fans would disagree.


And frankly, yes I do get tired of saying the same thing on repeat. But part of me wonders if you're brain will ever comprehend how incredibly wrong you have been.

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