(09-18-2023, 03:39 PM)Mikey Wrote:

(09-17-2023, 08:36 PM)carp8dm Wrote: Lawrence played just about as good as you could ask considering the lack of pass protection.

He missed a few throws, sure.  But none of his missed throwed were game breakers.  On the flip side, his receivers betrayed him more so than Luke trying to keep Leia a secret to Vader. 

Trevor kept us in this game.  It was not his fault at all that we lost.  I've only been posting here for about 10 months, so I'm not sure exactly whey this thread is 67 pages long.  The discussion about whether or not Trevor Lawrence is a Franchise QB is clearly over.

Dude is a potential HOF'er so long as Doug Pederson doesn't [BLEEP] up his progression by forcing Press Taylor to design the plays and call the game on Sunday...

This right here.

We have been sloppy. Not sure if that means Taylor is rewriting the playbook or isn't calling plays in ways that Pederson has been, or if that would even be something that would make the team appear so disjointed.

A lesser QB would have given that game away. The D deserves a TON of credit for holding Mahomes & Co. to only 17. If we weren't so dang out of sync on offense, we are probably cheering for a win today. We had our shots, and blew them.

It's almost like we're calling plays fearing failure more than trying to dictate pace or style. Dipping toes in water instead of kicking a D right in the neck. I get that our line isn't going to allow a ton of time to develop plays way downfield, but when we started hitting on plays and marching right back to the line, that is precisely how you get a D to wilt in that Florida heat, and we just...stopped. GO FOR THE THROAT, coach.

I think self-doubt reigned the day. Not necessarily from our QB, but the entirety of the offense around him.

Responding to the emphasis I added to your response:

There are no QBs other than Trevor Lawrence that would have been able to withstand the pressure and terrible play calling to the extent Trevor Lawrence did.  He had 1 fumble lost because Agnew had stone hands.  Other than that, Lawrence was sacked 4 times and was basically dealing with pressure all damn day.  And with that said, we put balls where they needed to be.  The criticism of Lawrence's throws where the WRs (Jones, Kirk, Ridley) were at the back of the end zone every time isn't on the QB.  

Imagine having a play called and that play has route concepts that must be run by the recievers...  And then you blame the QB for getting the ball into the hands of each reciever, but the reciever was running a route that took them out of bounds.

Would you blame it on the QB, the receiver, or the coach that trained them to run the routes so that they catch it in bounds!?!?!?!?!?!?

The QB dropped a dime every time.  The recievers caught the ball, every time.  But the route was too close to the boundary!  

Last year?  Route concepts had fades, crossers, roll outs.  QB dives.  QB draws plays.  RB Dives.  RB play action with quick slants.  I mean, there were so many plays we ran in the red zone last year.  

This year???  Dude.  This year it looks like we don't have Doug Pederson controlling the offense. It's not the same offense as last year.  It's just not.  You can't convince me that this offense we have seen for the last 2 weeks is the same offense we ran last year.  It's not the same offense, man.  And that is a problem.

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