(10-23-2023, 12:33 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote:

(10-23-2023, 10:25 AM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: /sarcasm on

Uh, sorry sweetie, but he doesn't have 4 touchdown games every week, he isn't elite. Game manager at best.

/sarcasm off

I mean, he's not elite(yet). Trev is efficient, moves the ball, let's the run game carry the offense. He can be a good QB, it's OK, game manager should not be a pejorative. There's only 3-5 truly elite QBs in this league and he's just not one of them right now. I'd put him somewhere between top 10-12, still a good QB, but when I think of truly great QBs right now he's just not the name I would blurt out. Let's remember this guy was compared to the likes of Andrew Luck(40 TDS in year 3 with a terribad team he was drafted to), a "generational talent", in which if you asked me TL has not lived up to those metrics at the pro level yet. The good news is it's only year 2 1/2, still plenty of time left to elevate his game this season.

Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Lamar, Purdy, and Tua I would argue are flat out better, Herbert is debatable but he seems to not have a clutch bone in his body... You also can't dismiss C.J. Stroud, he's really showing some promise/growth and I would argue is having a better season than TL so far. I would even argue guys like Goff and Cousins are better right now, but they're much older so bid deal. IMO Trevor is not a guy to carry a team when the defense is having a bad day and the run game is shut down. Guys like Mahomes, Allen, and Burrow have proven they can. When he can carry a team, I will call him elite with a giant smile on my face. He's just not there yet. 

TLDR -  It's still tremendous to have a top 10-12 QB in the NFL, I get we all love the team and definitely have biases when we rate our own guys, but the statistics don't lie. Trev's a slightly above average QB right now AND THAT IS OKAY! We can win titles with that, given the Jags run game and defense are playing well.

I just don't know where to even start with that. Purdy? Stroud? COUSINS?!!! 

I love the fact that Trevor never gets an credit that he's beaten teams with Allen, Lamar, Herbert, but obviously they are better. Have the same or worse records but obviously better.

I think you'll also find all those other QB's you listed, except Purdy who has McCaffrey don't have a run game that gets TD's and points. That's a good thing to have and shouldn't count against you. The fact that Lawrence cab hurt you deep is why teams have to play the deep ball. That's why for years every team stacked the box against us.

'Slightly above average QB right now'.....wow. just wow.

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