(11-13-2023, 10:20 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(11-13-2023, 10:13 AM)SuperJville Wrote: Agree that all those guys need to play better. I think i've been very critical of Ridley basically since week 2. None of those guys except for maybe ETN are going to be here for the long term. And none of them are considered elite or "franchise" material at their respective positions - but Trevor has been described that way and needs to be. He needs to be better at QB than Engram at TE. he needs to elevate others. He needs to be a much better QB than Ridley is a WR.  

I am not calling for his head - far from it. I think he's got a lot of potential. But some of the people on this forum have been nothing short of aggressive anytime someone points out that Trevor isn't elite and isn't a Franchise QB yet.  This isn't a "I told you so!" post - but let's not jump down anyone's throat.

I think this line needs help. I also think that a Mahomes can play with this line and still be the best QB in the league.  That's the difference.  Brady has made a living playing with subpar offensive lines and making people think the line is much better than they are. He knows where to go with the ball, how to do that, where not to go with the ball, how to improve his protections, etc.  Trevor isn't there. I know i'm comparing him to HOF players which is unfair - but right now he's a young QB with a lot of talent that is pretty mediocre.

Sweet. So because Trevor isn't one of the top 2 QBs of all time, he's not a franchise QB? Everyone will fall short if you're comparing Trevor to Mahomes and Brady.

Gimme a break. 

Those of us who continue to stand by Trevor being the franchise QB don't take offense to the criticism of him because we also criticize him. He was awful yesterday. Plain and simple. The annoying part is that we only have these convos after bad games. Someone posted today for the first time in 3 years.... Just to say Trevor is mid. They hide during good games and Jags wins and then come out during the struggles. It's extremely annoying and honestly one of the worst parts about this board. 

The Jags are 6-3. Have a chance to go 7-3. They have lost only a handful of times in the last 18 games or so. They lost to the Chiefs twice (elite), 49ers once (Elite), Lions once (7-2), and the Texans (doesn't look so bad now). 

Trevor can play better and I have full confidence that he will. So when he does come back and lead this team to the division title and a playoff win, make sure you trolls stay hidden.

No - i'm just saying that franchise QBs elevate the team around him. I don't think Trevor is elevating the O-line's play, I don't think he's elevating the receiver's play either. I think he's playing like a middle of the road QB, and has for the vast majority of his professional career, even if I take out the disaster that was his rookie season.  Who do I want my QB to be? Trevor. He has shown that he can win and can be clutch, so I am all for continuing to develop him and give him as many weapons as possible. 

I am just a little concerned, and I am here to discuss it. I'm concerned because in this modern NFL - where scoring is higher than it has been ever before, where seemingly half the league has a QB rating of over 90, Trevor isn't lighting it up. That's what I'm saying. And this year he hasn't had a single game where you say "wow, look at that".

I'm ready for our offense to have a game where we score 40. It needs to happen.

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