(11-13-2023, 11:04 AM)SuperJville Wrote:

(11-13-2023, 10:20 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Sweet. So because Trevor isn't one of the top 2 QBs of all time, he's not a franchise QB? Everyone will fall short if you're comparing Trevor to Mahomes and Brady.

Gimme a break. 

Those of us who continue to stand by Trevor being the franchise QB don't take offense to the criticism of him because we also criticize him. He was awful yesterday. Plain and simple. The annoying part is that we only have these convos after bad games. Someone posted today for the first time in 3 years.... Just to say Trevor is mid. They hide during good games and Jags wins and then come out during the struggles. It's extremely annoying and honestly one of the worst parts about this board. 

The Jags are 6-3. Have a chance to go 7-3. They have lost only a handful of times in the last 18 games or so. They lost to the Chiefs twice (elite), 49ers once (Elite), Lions once (7-2), and the Texans (doesn't look so bad now). 

Trevor can play better and I have full confidence that he will. So when he does come back and lead this team to the division title and a playoff win, make sure you trolls stay hidden.

No - i'm just saying that franchise QBs elevate the team around him. I don't think Trevor is elevating the O-line's play, I don't think he's elevating the receiver's play either. I think he's playing like a middle of the road QB, and has for the vast majority of his professional career, even if I take out the disaster that was his rookie season.  Who do I want my QB to be? Trevor. He has shown that he can win and can be clutch, so I am all for continuing to develop him and give him as many weapons as possible. 

I am just a little concerned, and I am here to discuss it. I'm concerned because in this modern NFL - where scoring is higher than it has been ever before, where seemingly half the league has a QB rating of over 90, Trevor isn't lighting it up. That's what I'm saying. And this year he hasn't had a single game where you say "wow, look at that".

I'm ready for our offense to have a game where we score 40. It needs to happen.

Except that's not what you said.

And Brady didn't start "elevating" bad Oline play in year 3. In year 3 as a starter, Brady had 23 TD passes and 12 interceptions.

You can be concerned. We all are to a certain extent. But what I'm not gonna do is compare Trevor in year 3 to the 2 best QBs of all time.

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