(11-30-2023, 06:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(11-30-2023, 05:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: The ending of this clip is what fascinates me. He says that Trevor Lawrence is elevating the play of those around him.

Engram was a bust before Jacksonville. Kirk was a good receiver but not a great one. Zay Jones was just a guy.

Personally - I don't technically agree with that - as stated. He's not wrong, but...

Engram was a talented move TE who was a coveted prospect coming out and eventually ran into an ugly battle with dropped passes in NY. 
It happens. I don't know if that makes him a bust - maybe - but it gave a team enough incentive to move on from him. 
He has worked hard to right the ship and the staff has put him in good position to succeed. TL is a positive factor in the equation for sure, but not the catalyst IMO. Hard work+offense designed around individual skill sets+TL = Engram achieving potential

Kirk - like EE - has benefitted from Pederson and co. designing around his strengths (perhaps more efficiently than his last stop) and a QB who puts it on him more consistently in most games.

Zay was a big talent being almost completely squandered by the Raiders. His tape there revealed a guy consistently getting open but not getting quality throws or having routes wasted by bad OL play ending the chance of a target. 

Yes TL is making them better than their former situations, but so is the well tailored playbook, the coaching, and being bought in to working harder at their craft.