(12-18-2023, 04:17 PM)Mikey Wrote:

(12-18-2023, 10:15 AM)Protozoa Wrote: [quote pid="1594761" dateline="1702907988"]

....well, Trevor doesn't have Kadarius Toney or Jawann Taylor submarining his efforts....but he also doesn't have Kelce.

Ridley has dropped like 4 touchdowns and ran multiple incorrect routes that led to INTs. Even with Taylor the Chiefs oline is ranked 12th.

I get that, my post wasn't necessarily a criticism of your statement, more of "they're just as poor off as we are right now". In the past it seemed like everything Mahomes touched turned to gold. They are crashing down to reality. Taylor is the most penalized lineman in the league, IIRC. They spent a fortune on him, too, so they are stuck with him or at least with his cap hit.

Engram is no slouch, but if we had a guy like Kelce who has that #1 receiver mentality, Trevor would be much better off.

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(12-18-2023, 11:12 AM)Protozoa Wrote: Ok well by that logic receiving stats don't count for RBs. If someone has to remove a stat from a player in order to prove they are right they have already lost.

no dog in the fight,  but by chance did you add rush yards to the yardage in your post? If we are factoring total offensive production, I would combine yards and TD for throw and run. If we are just comparing passing stats, then just throw yards and scores.

At least that would be my train of thought.
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I didn't include rush yards for Lawrence or Mahomes as it was a wash.

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