(02-01-2024, 08:27 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote:

(02-01-2024, 07:07 AM)SuperJville Wrote: Some of you look at advanced analytics but apparently don’t look at basics like how many touchdowns vs turnovers he’s responsible for.

Do the advanced analytics factor in Josh Allen’s rushing touchdowns?
I just don’t know how someone can say Trevor’s year (even before the injuries) was anything like Josh Allen’s year 3.

Josh Allen threw for 37 TDs and only has 10 picks.
He had 8 rushing touchdowns. 4 lost fumbles.
2020 stats: 5,000 yards (pass and rush), 45 touchdowns to 14 turnovers

Trevors 2023 stats:
4,400 yards (pass and rush), 24 touchdowns to 16 turnovers.

By year 3, Allen cemented himself as a top 3-5 qb. Year 3 was when he became elite. Year 3 brought a lot more question marks for Trevor. Yes - we understand the context. Offensive line play needs to improve. But I think we’re slightly exaggerating how bad the line was. I think they were about a C in pass blocking and a D in run blocking. Some people here act like they are F’s across the board.

So trevor is absolutely nothing like Allen in year 3.  Allen literally has 21 ADDITIONAL touchdowns and fewer turnovers. It’s not even close. Not even a little bit.

Trevors 2023, like it or not, is a lot more similar to a journeyman qb stats that started for the whole year or a Derek Carr for example. I’m not arguing that Trevor doesn’t have the POTENTIAL to be a top 5 qb consistently, but let’s not pretend he’s anywhere near a Josh Allen after 3 years in the league.

Trevor literally had 16 TDs dropped and then was injured for the last 6 games. Allen was healthy behind a good OL.

Look at it however you want, but what I see is a guy just as good as those top guys who took a beating due to mismanagement of his OL and tried to play through injuries that clearly affected his ability. I have zero doubts on Trevor. Does he have things to clean up? Sure. They all do.

How many TDs did Allen have dropped? Oh that’s right - you don’t know. Apparently Trevor is the only person that has dropped touchdowns. Also, plenty of those “dropped touchdowns” were high and basically out of bounds. You counting all those as “dropped” touchdowns shows me that you’re not looking at any of this objectively.

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