Whatever play contributions Ramsey brings to the the team will be negated by his overbearing attitude and baggage. Yes, he’s talented, but he’s also a conceited [BLEEP] hole. We don’t need that distraction.

He's not that talented anymore. He almost lost the Rams the SB.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

Whatever play contributions Ramsey brings to the the team will be negated by his overbearing attitude and baggage. Yes, he’s talented, but he’s also a conceited [BLEEP] hole. We don’t need that distraction.

He's not that talented anymore. He almost lost the Rams the SB.

I think this is being overblown.

Ramsey is indeed still talented. Has he been burned? Sure has but what corner hasn't?

He still has an 86.4 PFF grade. He still shadows the other teams #1 and still only allowed 56 catches last year which is essentially 3 catches a game.

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He's not that talented anymore. He almost lost the Rams the SB.

I think this is being overblown.

Ramsey is indeed still talented. Has he been burned? Sure has but what corner hasn't?

He still has an 86.4 PFF grade. He still shadows the other teams #1 and still only allowed 56 catches last year which is essentially 3 catches a game.

Fair point. Let me re-phrase. He's not worth what he's going to cost in salary and/or draft picks. Especially since he's proven to be a mercenary who'll bail at the 1st sign of a team entering a downturn. What happens if we have an outlier 6-11 season two or thee years from now? Will he still want to be here under those circumstances? We don't appear to have any divas on this current roster. Can he come back in a be a team player and set aside the ego? You could argue he did that with the Rams, so maybe on that one. I think it's ultimately how he jerked Khan and the franchise around that will probably make this a hard no-go.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

I think this is being overblown.

Ramsey is indeed still talented. Has he been burned? Sure has but what corner hasn't?

He still has an 86.4 PFF grade. He still shadows the other teams #1 and still only allowed 56 catches last year which is essentially 3 catches a game.

Fair point.  Let me re-phrase.  He's not worth what he's going to cost in salary and/or draft picks.  Especially since he's proven to be a mercenary who'll bail at the 1st sign of a team entering a downturn.  What happens if we have an outlier 6-11 season two or thee years from now?  Will he still want to be here under those circumstances?  We don't appear to have any divas on this current roster.  Can he come back in a be a team player and set aside the ego?  You could argue he did that with the Rams, so maybe on that one.  I think it's ultimately how he jerked Khan and the franchise around that will probably make this a hard no-go.

100% agree.

He's definitely not worth the salary and the draft picks it would take to get him when Campbell/Williams will do just fine.

I also know that a lot of fans are still bitter (and rightfully so) with how he left but some posters are acting like he's Shaq Griffin vs the clots and that's just not the case. He's still very very good.

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I’m in the minority here clearly. But yeah the above is right, it’s because he’s a winner though. The drama started when we accepted losing as being ok, if we could get him on a comparable number to Griffin this year for 2 thirds, you’d be crazy not to take it.

I agree. He was one of my favorite players on the field. I’m not going to judge him too hard because he wanted to win. He has a huge ego of course. Anyways, It’s not going to happen or the chances are slim. Either way, the jags need to add a good cb this off season to improve the defense.

every bleeping player on the field wants to win.

not every player acts like a toddler when they have frowny-face.

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Throw out all of the history, throw out all if the bad blood. Even though that stuff means he'll NEVER be a Jag, forget it for a minute.

Now ask yourself this:

Do you want to give up draft capital and a huge salary to someone who gives up a completion percentage 10 points higher than both Tyson Campbell and Darious Williams???

No. The answer is NO, you do not want to do that.

Jags just need a nickel. Draft a damn nickel and let's move on past this stupid narrative, please.

Thanks.

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Throw out all of the history, throw out all if the bad blood. Even though that stuff means he'll NEVER be a Jag, forget it for a minute.

Now ask yourself this:

Do you want to give up draft capital and a huge salary to someone who gives up a completion percentage 10 points higher than both Tyson Campbell and Darious Williams???

No. The answer is NO, you do not want to do that.

Jags just need a nickel. Draft a damn nickel and let's move on past this stupid narrative, please.

Thanks.

Thank you. 
Let's move on. It's amazing how many fans are still all up on Ramsay's nuts as a Stan or hater. I pretty much never think of the dude ever and then someone starts one of these threads.

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Throw out all of the history, throw out all if the bad blood. Even though that stuff means he'll NEVER be a Jag, forget it for a minute.

Now ask yourself this:

Do you want to give up draft capital and a huge salary to someone who gives up a completion percentage 10 points higher than both Tyson Campbell and Darious Williams???

No. The answer is NO, you do not want to do that.

Jags just need a nickel. Draft a damn nickel and let's move on past this stupid narrative, please.

Thanks.

Thank you. 
Let's move on. It's amazing how many fans are still all up on Ramsay's nuts as a Stan or hater. I pretty much never think of the dude ever and then someone starts one of these threads.

I would agree, except that neither the OP or the media started this one. Ramsey did.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

Thank you. 
Let's move on. It's amazing how many fans are still all up on Ramsay's nuts as a Stan or hater. I pretty much never think of the dude ever and then someone starts one of these threads.

I would agree, except that neither the OP or the media started this one.  Ramsey did.

That's cool. I've actually found him to be easy to ignore these days. 
Also not sure a couple tweets during our run is the same as he wanting to be traded back.

Either way... I'm over it all with that one.

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Well chances of it happening are less than 1%, so it’s an interesting discussion just for the “dead zone” of the offseason so take it it for what it is.. . Don’t hate haha

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I agree. He was one of my favorite players on the field. I’m not going to judge him too hard because he wanted to win. He has a huge ego of course. Anyways, It’s not going to happen or the chances are slim. Either way, the jags need to add a good cb this off season to improve the defense.

every bleeping player on the field wants to win.

not every player acts like a toddler when they have frowny-face.

You clearly have forgotten his years with us when we had coach Ra Ra Gus Bradley and we celebrated not losing my 2 scores with an ice cream party.

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If the Rams would take Shaq Griffin for Ramsey in a 1-1 trade I would do it and find the cap space. Ramsey is a bit past his prime obviously but regardless of how our fans feel about him (see trent balke for how a lot of you overreact) he would be a significant upgrade.

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If the Rams would take Shaq Griffin for Ramsey in a 1-1 trade I would do it and find the cap space. Ramsey is a bit past his prime obviously but regardless of how our fans feel about him (see trent balke for how a lot of you overreact) he would be a significant upgrade.

I would never take back a player who faked an injury to force a trade.  A person who does that is not going to be good for the team and the culture that was a large part of our success last year.

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If the Rams would take Shaq Griffin for Ramsey in a 1-1 trade I would do it and find the cap space. Ramsey is a bit past his prime obviously but regardless of how our fans feel about him (see trent balke for how a lot of you overreact) he would be a significant upgrade.

I would never take back a player who faked an injury to force a trade.  A person who does that is not going to be good for the team and the culture that was a large part of our success last year.

I agree and have previously there is no way he can return here. I do have to hand it to his handlers. They have gotten a lot of pub and his name out there using the Jags name.  I am sure LA is ready to swap him to get him off their cap and recoup draft capital. (which they have very little)  Whatever upgrade he would bring would be offset by all the baggage that comes with a returning diva.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

If the Rams would take Shaq Griffin for Ramsey in a 1-1 trade I would do it and find the cap space. Ramsey is a bit past his prime obviously but regardless of how our fans feel about him (see trent balke for how a lot of you overreact) he would be a significant upgrade.

Your avatar was a clown face for months.

Did you somehow miss that the entire point of thousands of Jags fans doing that was that they wanted Trent Baalke fired? 

LOL

Careful hurling those rocks from your little glass house there, pal. 
We won't even get into your other "overreactions." 

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And also - 
As I pointed out in this thread earlier - Both of our starting outside corners are giving up a completion percentage 10% LOWER than Jalen Ramsey is. 

That is not a significant upgrade. In fact - even though Ramsey is an insanely gifted athlete - the inconsistency of his performance the past two years makes him a gamble I would not roll the dice on even if he hadn't screwed us over.
Not for the money he'll command. 

Hard pass.

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An irrelevant question I would think, beyond giving this board a handy argumental point until pre season! 

Good player yes, but chalk me into the category of ' just why would you?' Simply no need in any number of levels. As for Pederson, I'm not a pro football coach but most of the good ones I've seen don't give themselves potential problems unless they really need to! And Pedersons a good one

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If the Rams would take Shaq Griffin for Ramsey in a 1-1 trade I would do it and find the cap space. Ramsey is a bit past his prime obviously but regardless of how our fans feel about him (see trent balke for how a lot of you overreact) he would be a significant upgrade.

From the king of over reaction, this is funny.

Pederson has great locker room chemistry that we haven’t had in years.  Ramsey faked an injury to get out of Jacksonville.  He continually free lanced while he was here rather than concentrating on his assignment.  He throws teammates under the bus rather than taking responsibility for his [BLEEP] ups.  He is about the furthest team from a team player there is.

None of those statements is untrue.

How is that ‘overreacting’ when considering him?

Ramsey biggest problem is his enormous ego.  That’s never going to change.

No thanks.

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If the Rams would take Shaq Griffin for Ramsey in a 1-1 trade I would do it and find the cap space. Ramsey is a bit past his prime obviously but regardless of how our fans feel about him (see trent balke for how a lot of you overreact) he would be a significant upgrade.

God no.  He is one of the most overpaid players in the league.  And the worst teammate in the league.  I wouldn't want him if the Rams paid his salary

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I'll be honest ... I don't really hold much against Ramsey, I can't blame him for wanting off what was a poor team and maximising what could at base be a short career. And history has proved him right.... Although the manner of his departure was unquestionably feeble! I've seen five year olds, five cents short for a milkshake handle the situation with more grace and charm but whats done is done ....

But I can't lie ... There's a Machiavellian part of me, (and I'm sure the good Lord will fire me into the broiling pit for it) that would chortle like a drain if Shad set up the parameters of a deal with the Rams, contacted Ramsey and arranged to meet face to face in L.A on Monday morning to iron out a new deal and put to bed any bygones...






And rang up on the Tuesday to say he apologises profusely but he missed his flight ... Bad back! 

Admittedly it would put us in particularly bad ordure leaguewide with the playing fraternity but it would bring the house down at the bank 

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every bleeping player on the field wants to win.

not every player acts like a toddler when they have frowny-face.

You clearly have forgotten his years with us when we had coach Ra Ra Gus Bradley and we celebrated not losing my 2 scores with an ice cream party.

that doesn't speak to my point one bit.

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If the Rams would take Shaq Griffin for Ramsey in a 1-1 trade I would do it and find the cap space. Ramsey is a bit past his prime obviously but regardless of how our fans feel about him (see trent balke for how a lot of you overreact) he would be a significant upgrade.

Trade one nagging back injury for the other?
What are we, the pro ball chiropractic specialists?

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