17th: Taliese Fuaga - OT
48th: Max Melton - CB
96th: T'Vondre Sweat - NT
114th: Mason McCormick - OG
116th: Javon Baker - WR
153rd: Gabe Hall - DT
212th: Nelson Ceasar - EDGE
236th: Frank Crum - OT

Of the 3 different mocks you did today, this is the best. I'd have to trade Cam in this scenario to maybe get another 3rd rounder and with the salary cap savings I'd try to trade for Aiyuk or Higgins. If Sweat matures this would be an amazing haul for the Jaguars.

Thanks. I felt the same way. Was surprised Fuaga fell to 17 but I immediately pulled the trigger there. With or without Cam Robinson. I am operating under the belief that him and Little are both gone next year and we cannot rely on Scherff beyond this year I feel. Fuaga has really good qualities to him and he should start right away somewhere on this line. 

Melton at CB felt perfect there value wise. Gives you a man-to-man, aggressive corner on the outside. Sweat at 96 is maybe a bit of a gamble but I am taking it at that point if he falls there. He fits a massive need and he's athletic for his size. McCormick and Baker in RD4 just feel like great value selections with the ability to contribute by the end of the year if needed. 

Hall is underrated out of Baylor. Can play everywhere along the line. Tested well RAS wise. Has an Armstead build to him height and weight wise. I think he's a steal there in RD5. Ceasar I know is more of a sack specialist and the team did interview him. I am good there in RD7. Crum is a GIANT at OT and tested extremely well for his size as well. Would love to see him in camp and maybe as a deveoplmental swing tackle.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Everybody wants the shiny new toys.  If we don't do something to address both lines it'll be last year all over again.  

And if you think signing a center that will be on the IL before the season is over and hoping Cleveland rounds back into shape (without getting injured again) is addressing the line...wow...

we all know the darft is about today and only today.

While I know this is sarcasm, the Jags can't afford to have their first round pick this year sit and watch.

This is likely their last year of Lawrence on his rookie deal. They need a player to come in right away and make an immediate impact. It's well known that I want a WR but if they stay at 17, the player needs to be on the field day 1. No one on the Oline is getting traded regardless of who is drafted. I love Fautanu and he is likely the only realistic OL player I would take at 17.

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Everybody wants the shiny new toys.  If we don't do something to address both lines it'll be last year all over again.  

And if you think signing a center that will be on the IL before the season is over and hoping Cleveland rounds back into shape (without getting injured again) is addressing the line...wow...

Agreed. The more I think about the off season comments and statements. The more I feel like this team is either blowing smoke up the media's [BLEEP] or it's just flatly wrong in it's evaluation's. 

There's no way you can go into this draft next week thinking you're safe with just Morse added at Center, who is over the hill age wise and entering his 10th season. With Scherff lined up next to him who is always injury prone and also well over the hill for his position. 

Putting too much faith in Cleveland coming back in shape, just like the previous year with Bartch which was botched. Then you have Robinson and Little who are both unreliable physically at LT. 

We had a rookie last year playing RT with a bum shoulder as well. They absolutely have to bolster the trenches significantly in this draft next week. If they don't walk out of this draft with at least three lineman between the offense and defense they have to be better and more prepared when the inevitable happens. 

Still keep circling back to Pederson and Baalke's comments in January. "Our best five didn't start until the season finale" and "We have to get better, stronger in the trenches". Guys can get stronger in the weight room, but, some guys are just naturally stronger than others and you have to accept that and come to terms with that. 

You're only improving this by adding fresh blood into the mix.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

we all know the darft is about today and only today.

While I know this is sarcasm, the Jags can't afford to have their first round pick this year sit and watch.

This is likely their last year of Lawrence on his rookie deal. They need a player to come in right away and make an immediate impact. It's well known that I want a WR but if they stay at 17, the player needs to be on the field day 1. No one on the Oline is getting traded regardless of who is drafted. I love Fautanu and he is likely the only realistic OL player I would take at 17.

Fuaga is a high possibility as well. He could be higher on our board than Fautanu as much as inlove Fautanu.  Latu also said he was the best lineman he went up against and has experience at G as well.  It could also let us move Harrison back to LT.

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we all know the darft is about today and only today.

While I know this is sarcasm, the Jags can't afford to have their first round pick this year sit and watch.

This is likely their last year of Lawrence on his rookie deal. They need a player to come in right away and make an immediate impact. It's well known that I want a WR but if they stay at 17, the player needs to be on the field day 1. No one on the Oline is getting traded regardless of who is drafted. I love Fautanu and he is likely the only realistic OL player I would take at 17.

I think that's just an assumption. Things can happen, be moved around or offset very easily if the right opportunity presents itself. Cam Robinson and Walker Little are pending free agents going into 2025. Scherff's long in the tooth and restructured his contract already. Morse is also no spring chicken at Center anymore. 

They could very easily draft a brand spanking new OT/OG/C between the 17th and/or 48th selection and decide to trade or cut some of these guys above loose during or after the draft weekend dust settles. Carolina loves our sloppy seconds. Give them Cam Robinson for a future 4th or 5th RD pick.

Cutting or trading Cam alone gives this team more money to start extending guys this year. Maybe they do get a deal done with Lawrence. Maybe they decide to get something done with Campbell at CB, Cisco at S, Etienne at RB and possibly even Little on a low risk deal for a few more years to remain as a potential starter or consistent swing tackle.

A lot can be done with that move alone.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Fashanu is a possibility as well. The best pass blocker in the class and a very good athlete as well. Not the best run blocker but can get better like Harrison. His biggest question mark is his hand size. Maybe the smallest hands in history with the arm length he has, kinda odd lol

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While I know this is sarcasm, the Jags can't afford to have their first round pick this year sit and watch.

This is likely their last year of Lawrence on his rookie deal. They need a player to come in right away and make an immediate impact. It's well known that I want a WR but if they stay at 17, the player needs to be on the field day 1. No one on the Oline is getting traded regardless of who is drafted. I love Fautanu and he is likely the only realistic OL player I would take at 17.

I think that's just an assumption. Things can happen, be moved around or offset very easily if the right opportunity presents itself. Cam Robinson and Walker Little are pending free agents going into 2025. Scherff's long in the tooth and restructured his contract already. Morse is also no spring chicken at Center anymore. 

They could very easily draft a brand spanking new OT/OG/C between the 17th and/or 48th selection and decide to trade or cut some of these guys above loose during or after the draft weekend dust settles. Carolina loves our sloppy seconds. Give them Cam Robinson for a future 4th or 5th RD pick.

Of course it's an assumption but it's an educated guess based on the teams actions.

Do you really think the Jaguars want to go into the season with a rookie LT, RT (assuming the move Anton to LT) or guard? If they wanted to move on from Scherff, they would have done so by now but they restructured him to secure his spot on this team. The team has continually showed you how they feel about the OL. They really like Cam Robinson. They really like Scherff. They also (for some odd reason) like Fortner. They are banking on Morse being the difference on the OL.

They've also showed you that they are really looking to upgrade the WR room. They tried to bring back Ridley and failed. There were rumors circling about Aiyuk. Now there are rumors circling about trading up for Nabers or Odunze.

I'm just trying to read the tea leaves here. Doug and Trent are meeting with the media at 2 today. I doubt they will give us any info but I know I'll be trying to read between the lines there lol

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I think that's just an assumption. Things can happen, be moved around or offset very easily if the right opportunity presents itself. Cam Robinson and Walker Little are pending free agents going into 2025. Scherff's long in the tooth and restructured his contract already. Morse is also no spring chicken at Center anymore. 

They could very easily draft a brand spanking new OT/OG/C between the 17th and/or 48th selection and decide to trade or cut some of these guys above loose during or after the draft weekend dust settles. Carolina loves our sloppy seconds. Give them Cam Robinson for a future 4th or 5th RD pick.

Of course it's an assumption but it's an educated guess based on the teams actions.

Do you really think the Jaguars want to go into the season with a rookie LT, RT (assuming the move Anton to LT) or guard? If they wanted to move on from Scherff, they would have done so by now but they restructured him to secure his spot on this team. The team has continually showed you how they feel about the OL. They really like Cam Robinson. They really like Scherff. They also (for some odd reason) like Fortner. They are banking on Morse being the difference on the OL.

They've also showed you that they are really looking to upgrade the WR room. They tried to bring back Ridley and failed. There were rumors circling about Aiyuk. Now there are rumors circling about trading up for Nabers or Odunze.

I'm just trying to read the tea leaves here. Doug and Trent are meeting with the media at 2 today. I doubt they will give us any info but I know I'll be trying to read between the lines there lol

I tend to also be of the belief that the coaches are planning to start next season with the 5 offensive linemen currently on their roster. The only possible exception would be Robinson if they are open to trading him on draft day. Only they know if this is a possibility or not. Based on what the current roster looks like, there are definitely needs that must be addressed on draft day or in the final wave of free agency. Cornerback is the number 1 need, in my opinion, since they are  losing Williams and replacing him with a player known to be injury prone. The confidence level in the current reserves should not be too high based on past performance. 
Despite this reality, I would NOT take a cornerback if there are other players they have rated higher and also can fill a need. I would be fine if they have 3 cornerbacks rated very highly and select one at pick 17. There is only about a 40% chance that Mitchell or Arnold will be available. If not, the only corner I'd strongly consider is Wiggins- who will most likely be available. Whether or not he is a good fit will determine if they select him. If Wiggins is not their cup of tea, they will have at least 2 or 3 other great options (Fautanu, Fuaga, Fashanu, Verse, Latu, Thomas, Murphy,Newton, JPJ- would all be solid picks). While an offensive lineman selected in round 1 may not start, the chances of another starter getting injured is quite high so they will likely be needed shortly after the season begins. Fautanu and Fuaga can play either tackle or guard which increases the likelihood they will be needed. Bottom line is you never reach for a player based on need so only take a cornerback if he is at the top (or very close) of their board when they are on the clock.

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Still keep circling back to Pederson and Baalke's comments in January. "Our best five didn't start until the season finale" and "We have to get better, stronger in the trenches". Guys can get stronger in the weight room, but, some guys are just naturally stronger than others and you have to accept that and come to terms with that. 

You're only improving this by adding fresh blood into the mix.

Those two quotes are both scary and opposing.  A. You lost your season finale and your chance to go to the playoffs to a 6-11 team in the season finale.  B. So if you need to get better and stronger, then your best five weren't good enough.

I always laugh at 'they'll get stronger in an NFL weight room' saying, indicating that colleges don't have the absolute best-of-the-best weight training facilities.  I maintain that 99.9% of fans with their only life goal of getting stronger, will never be able to press 225lbs 30 times.  As you said, the increase in strength for some line players is really the last bit of maturation of their bodies, and some players are simply built with natural strength.  The same goes with foot quickness, balance, and agility--those are innate talents and can't be trained up.

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I think that's just an assumption. Things can happen, be moved around or offset very easily if the right opportunity presents itself. Cam Robinson and Walker Little are pending free agents going into 2025. Scherff's long in the tooth and restructured his contract already. Morse is also no spring chicken at Center anymore. 

They could very easily draft a brand spanking new OT/OG/C between the 17th and/or 48th selection and decide to trade or cut some of these guys above loose during or after the draft weekend dust settles. Carolina loves our sloppy seconds. Give them Cam Robinson for a future 4th or 5th RD pick.

Of course it's an assumption but it's an educated guess based on the teams actions.

Do you really think the Jaguars want to go into the season with a rookie LT, RT (assuming the move Anton to LT) or guard? If they wanted to move on from Scherff, they would have done so by now but they restructured him to secure his spot on this team. The team has continually showed you how they feel about the OL. They really like Cam Robinson. They really like Scherff. They also (for some odd reason) like Fortner. They are banking on Morse being the difference on the OL.

They've also showed you that they are really looking to upgrade the WR room. They tried to bring back Ridley and failed. There were rumors circling about Aiyuk. Now there are rumors circling about trading up for Nabers or Odunze.

I'm just trying to read the tea leaves here. Doug and Trent are meeting with the media at 2 today. I doubt they will give us any info but I know I'll be trying to read between the lines there lol

Again, strictly depends on the opportunity that presents itself. Here's a list of lineman they have confirmed visits with, this is officially current as of the 17th yesterday at 9:00 AM, in chronological order:

Jordyn Slaughter - OL - Illinois
Christian Haynes - IOL - UConn
Taliese Fuaga - OT - Oregon St. 
Tanor Bortolini - OC - Wisconsin
Kenneth Horsey - IOL - Kentucky
Bryan Hudson - C - Louisville
Travis Glover - OT - Georgia St.
Troy Fautanu - OT - Washington
Amarius Mims - OT - Georgia

They're also rumored to be interested in Michigan's OL group and Notre Dame's OL group. I don't think they're entirely comfortable with walking into 2024 knowing full well with what happened last year. Again, "Our best five didn't start until the season finale" and "We have to get stronger, better up front". 

They're looking at OL in general a lot more closely than we think I believe. It's a mixed bag of confirmed visits between Pro-Day's, Virtual Meetings, Top 30's, etc. 

But, it is certainly noteworthy that they at least reached out to three players that are expected to be first round selections next Thursday. Haynes is also a day two pick and Bortolini is an intriguing Center prospect leaving Wisconsin that posted essentially a carbon copy of Jason Kelce's RAS.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

we all know the darft is about today and only today.

A corner couldn't help in the future and today as well?  Not to mention this is the last year on Campbell's contract.

apologies, didn't realize comments dripping with sarcasm needed to be explicitly labeled as such.

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Still keep circling back to Pederson and Baalke's comments in January. "Our best five didn't start until the season finale" and "We have to get better, stronger in the trenches". Guys can get stronger in the weight room, but, some guys are just naturally stronger than others and you have to accept that and come to terms with that. 

You're only improving this by adding fresh blood into the mix.

Those two quotes are both scary and opposing.  A. You lost your season finale and your chance to go to the playoffs to a 6-11 team in the season finale.  B. So if you need to get better and stronger, then your best five weren't good enough.

I always laugh at 'they'll get stronger in an NFL weight room' saying, indicating that colleges don't have the absolute best-of-the-best weight training facilities.  I maintain that 99.9% of fans with their only life goal of getting stronger, will never be able to press 225lbs 30 times.  As you said, the increase in strength for some line players is really the last bit of maturation of their bodies, and some players are simply built with natural strength.  The same goes with foot quickness, balance, and agility--those are innate talents and can't be trained up.

Exactly. You hear it all the time from scouts and the scouting community. The "intangibles" that everybody likes to throw around is just a word that sums up something that a particular player is just naturally better at. Whether it's God given speed, agility, strength, balance or power. 

Or, you'll get the other scouting note I like paying attention to. "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane". There's a lot of that in multiple sports as well. You could be an absolute gym rat, built like a brick [BLEEP] house or have shoulders the size of mountains. It means absolutely [BLEEP] all if you can't understand your blocking assignment, don't understand leverage, how to read a secondary, identify a rushing lane, etc. 

And that's okay. There's a reason why guys are boom or bust in RD1 and why teams land gems in RD2 and down. It's a big game of crapshoot man. You either trust your evaluation process and your draft board or you don't. Most of these guys are physically capped out by the time they're drafted. They are who they are. 

If he's throwing 225 pounds up over 30 times and the film shows that he's throwing his blockers around like a bag of potatoes while also getting downfield to make the tackle or sack? And he's done it consistently year in and year out? He's probably got that damn "intangible" everybody is looking for. 

If he's throwing up 400 pounds on the bench, squatting over 500 pounds and has had one good season of football while laying dormant for the other two or three years?

You might want to be careful. There's a lot of variables in all of this. But, like you said, it's scary and opposing. Your best five didn't start until the season finale and that best five laid an egg a few times in a game where you win and you're in against a team that had nothing to gain at all. 

I think this coaching staff and front office knows they have to get better next week in the trenches or they're possibly out of a job. If Lawrence gets nicked up again this year like last year? Because they only added one new face to the starting line-up? [BLEEP] need to be kicked to the streets down there near that stadium before the season is over. 

There's just no excuses for it anymore.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

A corner couldn't help in the future and today as well?  Not to mention this is the last year on Campbell's contract.

apologies, didn't realize comments dripping with sarcasm needed to be explicitly labeled as such.

I understood the sarcasm but you were insinuating take a lineman and don't pass one up just because he don't start day 1.  Corner could help day 1 and the future, not just day 1.

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Those two quotes are both scary and opposing.  A. You lost your season finale and your chance to go to the playoffs to a 6-11 team in the season finale.  B. So if you need to get better and stronger, then your best five weren't good enough.

I always laugh at 'they'll get stronger in an NFL weight room' saying, indicating that colleges don't have the absolute best-of-the-best weight training facilities.  I maintain that 99.9% of fans with their only life goal of getting stronger, will never be able to press 225lbs 30 times.  As you said, the increase in strength for some line players is really the last bit of maturation of their bodies, and some players are simply built with natural strength.  The same goes with foot quickness, balance, and agility--those are innate talents and can't be trained up.

Exactly. You hear it all the time from scouts and the scouting community. The "intangibles" that everybody likes to throw around is just a word that sums up something that a particular player is just naturally better at. Whether it's God given speed, agility, strength, balance or power. 

Or, you'll get the other scouting note I like paying attention to. "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane". There's a lot of that in multiple sports as well. You could be an absolute gym rat, built like a brick [BLEEP] house or have shoulders the size of mountains. It means absolutely [BLEEP] all if you can't understand your blocking assignment, don't understand leverage, how to read a secondary, identify a rushing lane, etc. 

And that's okay. There's a reason why guys are boom or bust in RD1 and why teams land gems in RD2 and down. It's a big game of crapshoot man. You either trust your evaluation process and your draft board or you don't. Most of these guys are physically capped out by the time they're drafted. They are who they are. 

If he's throwing 225 pounds up over 30 times and the film shows that he's throwing his blockers around like a bag of potatoes while also getting downfield to make the tackle or sack? And he's done it consistently year in and year out? He's probably got that damn "intangible" everybody is looking for. 

If he's throwing up 400 pounds on the bench, squatting over 500 pounds and has had one good season of football while laying dormant for the other two or three years?

You might want to be careful. There's a lot of variables in all of this. But, like you said, it's scary and opposing. Your best five didn't start until the season finale and that best five laid an egg a few times in a game where you win and you're in against a team that had nothing to gain at all. 

I think this coaching staff and front office knows they have to get better next week in the trenches or they're possibly out of a job. If Lawrence gets nicked up again this year like last year? Because they only added one new face to the starting line-up? [BLEEP] need to be kicked to the streets down there near that stadium before the season is over. 

There's just no excuses for it anymore.

It's sad and scary that Doug actually thinks that was the best 5 with Fortner in and Little out. That 5 also got destroyed most of the game by Ten. dline who aren't wold beaters and their best player in Simmons didn't even play

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we all know the darft is about today and only today.

While I know this is sarcasm, the Jags can't afford to have their first round pick this year sit and watch.

This is likely their last year of Lawrence on his rookie deal. They need a player to come in right away and make an immediate impact. It's well known that I want a WR but if they stay at 17, the player needs to be on the field day 1. No one on the Oline is getting traded regardless of who is drafted. I love Fautanu and he is likely the only realistic OL player I would take at 17.

I think the point of difference is the mindset that taking any OL player this year means they are going to 'sit and watch'. We've seen over the past few seasons with TLaw that the line gets banged up and reserves will be called into duty. They will get their PT. Wouldn't it be reassuring to know that if one of our big guys gets hurt, it's not Blake Hance or Cole Van Lanen to the rescue? Just because they are not a day one starter doesn't mean we aren't in good shape as a team.

I'm looking at next year and beyond. We have two tackles on expiring deals and two aged FA inside. If we don't plan ahead, we'll be swinging wildly in desperation next March and April. I'm not as concerned about position next Thursday as I am about value. As long as we aren't reaching to get a guy or overpaying to move up to grab someone, I honestly don't know that we can go wrong.

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While I know this is sarcasm, the Jags can't afford to have their first round pick this year sit and watch.

This is likely their last year of Lawrence on his rookie deal. They need a player to come in right away and make an immediate impact. It's well known that I want a WR but if they stay at 17, the player needs to be on the field day 1. No one on the Oline is getting traded regardless of who is drafted. I love Fautanu and he is likely the only realistic OL player I would take at 17.

I think the point of difference is the mindset that taking any OL player this year means they are going to 'sit and watch'. We've seen over the past few seasons with TLaw that the line gets banged up and reserves will be called into duty. They will get their PT. Wouldn't it be reassuring to know that if one of our big guys gets hurt, it's not Blake Hance or Cole Van Lanen to the rescue? Just because they are not a day one starter doesn't mean we aren't in good shape as a team.

I'm looking at next year and beyond. We have two tackles on expiring deals and two aged FA inside. If we don't plan ahead, we'll be swinging wildly in desperation next March and April. I'm not as concerned about position next Thursday as I am about value. As long as we aren't reaching to get a guy or overpaying to move up to grab someone, I honestly don't know that we can go wrong.

Can't say I really disagree here. If the Jags stay at 17, I want the best value for the team no matter the position. I'm not reaching for a WR just because there's one there.

For me, everything that happens from here on out is about Trevor Lawrence. I wanted last years draft to be all about helping Trevor and they went with a backup TE and a backup RB. They certainly could have gone with OL and WR help last year but they didn't.

This year, I still want offensive help for Trevor and that's my main priority. If it's not a trade up for Odunze/Nabers, I'm good with the best value at 17 but I think this should be a heavy offensive draft.

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If we go oline in the first and he doesn't start day 1 it could be a good thing. It could mean our oline is playing at a high level at the moment and we have the rookie ready just incase of injury or one of the lineman play declines. After last year depth pieces as well as the future on the oline would be good to have. The one thing that will derail our season again is poor oline play

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Exactly. You hear it all the time from scouts and the scouting community. The "intangibles" that everybody likes to throw around is just a word that sums up something that a particular player is just naturally better at. Whether it's God given speed, agility, strength, balance or power. 

Or, you'll get the other scouting note I like paying attention to. "Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane". There's a lot of that in multiple sports as well. You could be an absolute gym rat, built like a brick [BLEEP] house or have shoulders the size of mountains. It means absolutely [BLEEP] all if you can't understand your blocking assignment, don't understand leverage, how to read a secondary, identify a rushing lane, etc. 

And that's okay. There's a reason why guys are boom or bust in RD1 and why teams land gems in RD2 and down. It's a big game of crapshoot man. You either trust your evaluation process and your draft board or you don't. Most of these guys are physically capped out by the time they're drafted. They are who they are. 

If he's throwing 225 pounds up over 30 times and the film shows that he's throwing his blockers around like a bag of potatoes while also getting downfield to make the tackle or sack? And he's done it consistently year in and year out? He's probably got that damn "intangible" everybody is looking for. 

If he's throwing up 400 pounds on the bench, squatting over 500 pounds and has had one good season of football while laying dormant for the other two or three years?

You might want to be careful. There's a lot of variables in all of this. But, like you said, it's scary and opposing. Your best five didn't start until the season finale and that best five laid an egg a few times in a game where you win and you're in against a team that had nothing to gain at all. 

I think this coaching staff and front office knows they have to get better next week in the trenches or they're possibly out of a job. If Lawrence gets nicked up again this year like last year? Because they only added one new face to the starting line-up? [BLEEP] need to be kicked to the streets down there near that stadium before the season is over. 

There's just no excuses for it anymore.

It's sad and scary that Doug actually thinks that was the best 5 with Fortner in and Little out. That 5 also got destroyed most of the game by Ten. dline who aren't wold beaters and their best player in Simmons didn't even play

Best at his disposal. You're only as good as your roster allows you to be. Fortner was probably the best Center he had at the time. Obviously we now know what the team truly thinks of him because they went out and signed a 10 year veteran in Morse. Who honestly was middling by all accounts in Buffalo last year. 

That's why I think we should honestly keep his statements in mind. They said they needed to get better. They at least did that by getting Fortner's replacement. I just don't think they're done. Their prospect visits would indicate to me that they've identified players from this class at 17, 48, 96, 114 & 116 that are realistic options on their draft board. 

That group of five was bad in the finale. I keep thinking of that run stop at the goal line that got blown up. That had happened more than once in the game throughout the contest. We absolutely have to get better next week in the trenches or this team is doomed to fall short again.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

It's sad and scary that Doug actually thinks that was the best 5 with Fortner in and Little out. That 5 also got destroyed most of the game by Ten. dline who aren't wold beaters and their best player in Simmons didn't even play

Best at his disposal. You're only as good as your roster allows you to be. Fortner was probably the best Center he had at the time. Obviously we now know what the team truly thinks of him because they went out and signed a 10 year veteran in Morse. Who honestly was middling by all accounts in Buffalo last year. 

That's why I think we should honestly keep his statements in mind. They said they needed to get better. They at least did that by getting Fortner's replacement. I just don't think they're done. Their prospect visits would indicate to me that they've identified players from this class at 17, 48, 96, 114 & 116 that are realistic options on their draft board. 

That group of five was bad in the finale. I keep thinking of that run stop at the goal line that got blown up. That had happened more than once in the game throughout the contest. We absolutely have to get better next week in the trenches or this team is doomed to fall short again.

I think our first couple picks will be players we haven't met with kinda like BB was saying.

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Best at his disposal. You're only as good as your roster allows you to be. Fortner was probably the best Center he had at the time. Obviously we now know what the team truly thinks of him because they went out and signed a 10 year veteran in Morse. Who honestly was middling by all accounts in Buffalo last year. 

That's why I think we should honestly keep his statements in mind. They said they needed to get better. They at least did that by getting Fortner's replacement. I just don't think they're done. Their prospect visits would indicate to me that they've identified players from this class at 17, 48, 96, 114 & 116 that are realistic options on their draft board. 

That group of five was bad in the finale. I keep thinking of that run stop at the goal line that got blown up. That had happened more than once in the game throughout the contest. We absolutely have to get better next week in the trenches or this team is doomed to fall short again.

I think our first couple picks will be players we haven't met with kinda like BB was saying.

Yeah. Wouldn't surprise me. I think we're sleeping on prospects like Graham Barton, Kamari Lassiter & Cooper Beebe and between the 1st and 2nd RD it wouldn't surprise me if they have their names called. 

I think we're a prime candidate for a trade down as well. 17 is a sweet spot for most teams after the top half of the draft begins to thin itself out and people start getting antsy anticipating a run at a certain position.

I think teams like Dallas, Green Bay & Buffalo should be on our radars going into next week as potential 1st RD swaps with us picking up an extra 2nd RD pick in the process potentially.

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