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jj82284 · 05-26-2016, 08:16 AM

Ask Detroit how the whole "pay up or leave" thing works on business investment.

TJBender · 05-26-2016, 08:44 AM

Quote:The worst was Buchanan followed by Andrew Jackson and LBJ. The best was Washington, hands down. All the rest fall somewhere in between with neither Bush nor Obama in the top 20.

I tend to think that Hoover was the worst we've seen. His failures drove the country right into the Great Depression. Andrew Johnson and James Polk weren't far behind.

**flsprtsgod** · 05-26-2016, 09:22 AM

Quote:I tend to think that Hoover was the worst we've seen. His failures drove the country right into the Great Depression. Andrew Johnson and James Polk weren't far behind.

I agree that Hoover belongs at the bottom too, but the Civil War was worse than the Depression imo.

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

TJBender · 05-26-2016, 09:33 AM

Quote:I agree that Hoover belongs at the bottom too, but the Civil War was worse than the Depression imo.

Polk bears a lot of blame for the Civil War happening. Instead of addressing the issues at home, he started a war with Mexico with dubious intent. Johnson, of course, nearly tore the country back apart right after the war had ended. Not to marginalize how thoroughly Buchanan screwed things up, but really most Presidents from 1820 onward managed to make things worse.

**flsprtsgod** · 05-26-2016, 05:15 PM

Quote:Polk bears a lot of blame for the Civil War happening. Instead of addressing the issues at home, he started a war with Mexico with dubious intent. Johnson, of course, nearly tore the country back apart right after the war had ended. Not to marginalize how thoroughly Buchanan screwed things up, but really most Presidents from 1820 onward managed to make things worse.

Word.

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

rollerjag · 05-27-2016, 11:59 AM

Quote:Polk bears a lot of blame for the Civil War happening. Instead of addressing the issues at home, he started a war with Mexico with dubious intent. Johnson, of course, nearly tore the country back apart right after the war had ended. Not to marginalize how thoroughly Buchanan screwed things up, but really most Presidents from 1820 onward managed to make things worse.

Beware Presidents from Tennessee.

If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley

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