Well then it's decided. Homosexuality is a farce created by Obama and his socialist henchmen to promote political correctness and the spread of Islam.

 

Did I say that? Nope, didn't think so.



That said, it does seem a bit off that thousands of these frauds CHOOSE to be gay only to take the coward's way out by FAKING distress and killing themselves...probably for attention...because that's the only way they....could be....with someone?

 

I can't speak for thousands of people, I can only speak for someone I knew 8-10 years ago. And as I said, you would be surprised at what people will do to fit in or be loved or whatever their reasoning is. Girls become anorexic to fit the image that is constantly put in their face. They weren't born anorexic they became that was due to societal and peer pressure. Guys will go to the gym and become fanatics about their image for the same reason. Junkies use drugs to avoid dealing with reality as do alcoholics with alcohol. People become addicted to pron because they are not fulfilled somehow and it doesn't always have to do with sex. The kid who turned into a bully because his/her parents mistreated them or they felt slighted some other way. The sexual predator who was prey as a child. 


 

These people weren't born this way. Somewhere along the line they were told they were lacking and made a choice to try and fill that void, or to right a wrong they feel was done against them, or maybe it's all they ever knew and didn't know how to be any other way.


 

People are born out of the womb a clean slate and every single thing they experience shapes who they are and that can mean who they feel they are attracted to. 


 

 

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Well then it's decided. Homosexuality is a farce created by Obama and his socialist henchmen to promote political correctness and the spread of Islam.

 

Did I say that? Nope, didn't think so.


That said, it does seem a bit off that thousands of these frauds CHOOSE to be gay only to take the coward's way out by FAKING distress and killing themselves...probably for attention...because that's the only way they....could be....with someone?

 

I can't speak for thousands of people, I can only speak for someone I knew 8-10 years ago. And as I said, you would be surprised at what people will do to fit in or be loved or whatever their reasoning is. Girls become anorexic to fit the image that is constantly put in their face. They weren't born anorexic they became that was due to societal and peer pressure. Guys will go to the gym and become fanatics about their image for the same reason. Junkies use drugs to avoid dealing with reality as do alcoholics with alcohol. People become addicted to pron because they are not fulfilled somehow and it doesn't always have to do with sex. The kid who turned into a bully because his/her parents mistreated them or they felt slighted some other way. The sexual predator who was prey as a child. 

 

These people weren't born this way. Somewhere along the line they were told they were lacking and made a choice to try and fill that void, or to right a wrong they feel was done against them, or maybe it's all they ever knew and didn't know how to be any other way.

 

People are born out of the womb a clean slate and every single thing they experience shapes who they are and that can mean who they feel they are attracted to. 

 

 

 

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All nurture, no nature. Got it.

 

Probably why I am a white male, with brown hair. I saw someone that I liked with those traits and figured I could get some attention out of it.

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All nurture, no nature. Got it.

 

Probably why I am a white male, with brown hair. I saw someone that I liked with those traits and figured I could get some attention out of it.


 

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Whatever man. I'm just sharing my experiences about people I've known and what life in general has shown and taught me about how people are- to include myself. You don't know anything about me or how I have lived. It would make some people here cry if they knew the things I've dealt with. I don't say that wanting sympathy because I sure don't need it, just pointing out a fact.

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You don't know anything about me or how I have lived. It would make some people here cry if they knew the things I've dealt with. I don't say that wanting sympathy because I sure don't need it, just pointing out a fact.

 

Interesting. Has nothing to do with anything we were talking about, but I'm glad you got that off your chest.

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Interesting. Has nothing to do with anything we were talking about, but I'm glad you got that off your chest.

Actually it does but we're not having that conversation.

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Actually it does but we're not having that conversation.

Good.

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Good.

You're a loser in real life aren't you bro. You're the kind of person that needs to get punched because its obviously never happened to you yet.

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You're a loser in real life aren't you bro. You're the kind of person that needs to get punched because its obviously never happened to you yet.

<3 u

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I can't quote for some reason, but this is directed at High Score.  It is amazing to me that you can come here and spout your opinions, but when someone (Americus 2.0) gives her thoughts on the matter you decide to chastise and demean.  She was giving a personal account that went against your unwavering opinion that not all men/women choose to be gay based on attraction alone and as typical for you, you jump down her throat.

 

It's funny that many want to think that everyone should have free speech, but when someone disagrees with you, the way you respond speaks volumes for what you really feel.

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I can't quote for some reason, but this is directed at High Score.  It is amazing to me that you can come here and spout your opinions, but when someone (Americus 2.0) gives her thoughts on the matter you decide to chastise and demean.  She was giving a personal account that went against your unwavering opinion that not all men/women choose to be gay based on attraction alone and as typical for you, you jump down her throat.

 

It's funny that many want to think that everyone should have free speech, but when someone disagrees with you, the way you respond speaks volumes for what you really feel.

 

Free speech only protects you from the government, not private entities such as this message board. Don't believe me, strike up a conversation about religion.

 

More importantly, not once did I restrict her speech in any way. I disagreed with her. Am I not allowed the same right to free speech that you are claiming I violated? Should I not be allowed to have an opinion on the matter? Are you a proponent of free speech only when you agree with the person?

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No, you only chastised her for her way of thinking.  She told you a fact about someone she knows and knows his personal experience.  It goes against your thoughts so you treated her rudely. 

 

Not shocking, its your way.

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No, you only chastised her for her way of thinking.  She told you a fact about someone she knows and knows his personal experience.  It goes against your thoughts so you treated her rudely. 

 

Not shocking, its your way.

 

 

I disagreed with her and I voiced my opinion. I am allowed to do that, whether you like it or not.

 

It would seem you are the one who really takes issue with differing opinions.

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No, you only chastised her for her way of thinking.  She told you a fact about someone she knows and knows his personal experience.  It goes against your thoughts so you treated her rudely. 

 

Not shocking, its your way.

 

That doesn't hinder her freedom of speech in any way, shape or form.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

That doesn't hinder her freedom of speech in any way, shape or form.

Listen, you two are more than welcome to keep talking about a flawed and working, but we all know the truth here. His response to her was rude and disrespectful.


She talked about a story that was 100% true, and because it doesn't fit into his narrow-minded world, he wanted to argue with her and tell her that she was wrong. Is her case the consensus of what happens in the LGBT community? Probably not, but it still proves that he was incorrect in saying what he did earlier.

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Listen, you two are more than welcome to keep talking about a flawed and working, but we all know the truth here. His response to her was rude and disrespectful.

The first amendment doesn't require people to be respectful to what others say. As I've said several times, the first amendment doesn't protect you from what other people say about what you say.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

That doesn't hinder her freedom of speech in any way, shape or form.

This is true. But I understand what the poster was getting at.

 

I disagreed with her and I voiced my opinion. I am allowed to do that, whether you like it or not.

 

It would seem you are the one who really takes issue with differing opinions.

It is true everyone has a right to their opinion and we are all allowed to disagree. The issue I take with you is your attitude. It's not always the words used it's how they're used and when you don't agree with someone you tend to be a jerk about it. You have every right to be a jerk but people tend to take things you say less seriously when you are that way. Belittling others doesn't show the character of that person, it shows yours. 

 

Listen, you two are more than welcome to keep talking about a flawed and working, but we all know the truth here. His response to her was rude and disrespectful.


She talked about a story that was 100% true, and because it doesn't fit into his narrow-minded world, he wanted to argue with her and tell her that she was wrong. Is her case the consensus of what happens in the LGBT community? Probably not, but it still proves that he was incorrect in saying what he did earlier.

I appreciate your kind words. My experiences within the LGBT community obviously don't include every single LGBT person so they are not indicative of the community as a whole, but they were real experiences. If someone wants to throw a fit and act childish that's on them. It shows their lack of willingness to be the very thing they say we all should be- tolerant. 

 

I think 'tolerance' as defined in our society today is a load of bull. I think we should all respect what the other has to say whether we agree with it or not, or at least respect the fact that the other person has a right to their opinion without being a turd about it. But there are folks, and I'm not just speaking of High Score here, who absolutely will not accept that their opinion on a matter is just that. An opinion. And they will beat a dead horse to prove they are right. No one is always right or wrong but there are people who believe they and their opinions are the final word on any subject and are unwilling to listen to and possibly learn from someone else. I have found such people to be the most close minded people even though they scream "tolerance!" They only accept it as tolerance if it agrees with their narrative. And this comes from any one person. I'm not aiming this at any group of people because it's not reserved for certain folks though I would be remiss in not saying the liberal left does tend to use this mantra more often than not. I think in general there are people who aren't "happy" these days unless there's a fight to be in on or something to be angry about. 

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The first amendment doesn't require people to be respectful to what others say. As I've said several times, the first amendment doesn't protect you from what other people say about what you say.

While this is true, when did it stop being okay to be respectful? In my case I wasn't demeaning to High Score but his response was petty. Telling someone that what they said is bull crap just because they don't agree is childish and shortsighted in my opinion. I guess I'm of the generation or was raised in such a way that that is not how you treat people. You will see me disagree with people here but I won't call people names nor be deliberately hateful.

 

But hey, if people here want to be that way that's on them. I was fine with HS until he said, "Interesting. Has nothing to do with anything we were talking about, but I'm glad you got that off your chest." He didn't want to hear anything I had to say or he might not have seen where I was coming from. Regardless, I don't care. He has his opinion and I have my experiences that I stand by and that's as far as it goes for me when it comes to talking about it with him. 

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It was a great day for golf today...

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

While this is true, when did it stop being okay to be respectful? In my case I wasn't demeaning to High Score but his response was petty. Telling someone that what they said is bull crap just because they don't agree is childish and shortsighted in my opinion. I guess I'm of the generation or was raised in such a way that that is not how you treat people. You will see me disagree with people here but I won't call people names nor be deliberately hateful.

 

But hey, if people here want to be that way that's on them. I was fine with HS until he said, "Interesting. Has nothing to do with anything we were talking about, but I'm glad you got that off your chest." He didn't want to hear anything I had to say or he might not have seen where I was coming from. Regardless, I don't care. He has his opinion and I have my experiences that I stand by and that's as far as it goes for me when it comes to talking about it with him. 

 

Listen...

 

I am sorry if I was being rude. I didn't call you any names as you allege, but rude in tone I will give you. I got a little upset that you were apparently broadbrushing an entire group of people and reducing their lives down to a cry for attention or fitting in. If you have known somebody where that was the case, fine. I know lots of people where that absolutely WASN'T the case. 

 

All too often, people are decidedly emphatic that all gay people are the way they are because they chose it, because it doesn't fit in that particular person's worldview that it could be any other way. This can be yours (or someones) opinion, but I certainly don't have to like it or agree with it.

 

Then you bust out the part about people you know, and how "You don't know anything about me or how I have lived. It would make some people here cry if they knew the things I've dealt with. I don't say that wanting sympathy because I sure don't need it, just pointing out a fact." I failed to see how somebody you knew choosing to be gay related to whatever hardships or struggles YOU have experienced. You said you didn't want to talk about it, but gave a vivid enough description that would make people think that yeah, you indeed do want people to ask you about it.

 

The point I was trying to make was 1) you allegedly don't want anybody to care 2) it's none of my business, and I don't care, and 3) it doesn't seem to have anything to do with your gay friend who chose to be gay.

 

As for everyone else, I never once infringed on anybody's free-speech (this part is laughable) and I have the right to my own opinion on the subject. I admit to being rude, but lets not for a minute pretend like no one else has been rude to someone of which they disagree.

 

So, apologies to americus 2.0. You have the right to your opinion, I just think its unfair to project people's homosexuality as a cry for attention.

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2016, we're still debating about gay being a choice. Give me a break.....


I'll end this right now. It's not. There ya go, straight from the lesbians mouth (typed)

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