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Carson compares Syrian refugees to "rabid dogs"

#41

Quote:He told a story about him trying to stab a friend when he had anger issues as a youth.  The liberal media demanded that he name who is friend was or else he was lying about it.  Ben Carson refused to name the person on the grounds of protecting the person's identity.  He was labeled a liar.
It was more because everyone they interviewed about Carson as a kid said they had no recollection of the event, and that Carson was always a quiet, mild-mannered young man. Like I said, it doesn't bug me too much because he's hardly the first politician to lie about his upbringing to make himself more appealing.

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#42

Quote:Which part?
 

That Ted Cruz wants to turn America into a theocracy.  Sure he can go a little overboard with religion at times, but theocracy is pretty far, far fetched.  America at its founding was nowhere near a theocracy and was infinitely closer than we are today.

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#43

Quote:It was more because everyone they interviewed about Carson as a kid said they had no recollection of the event, and that Carson was always a quiet, mild-mannered young man. Like I said, it doesn't bug me too much because he's hardly the first politician to lie about his upbringing to make himself more appealing.
 

Remember that time when you and a friend did something when you were a kid.  Now I am going to go ask other people who weren't there if it happened 50 years ago and when they have no idea I'll use it as definitive proof that you are lying.

 

I was a quiet, well-mannered young man, but I had anger issues as well...  But then again, that makes me a liar.

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#44

Quote:He told a story about him trying to stab a friend when he had anger issues as a youth. The liberal media demanded that he name who his friend was or else he was lying about it. Ben Carson refused to name the person on the grounds of protecting the person's identity. He was labeled a liar.


I don't see what he stands to gain by making up that story. Any reporter who presses that issue is an ambulance chaser, not a journalist.
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#45

Quote:That Ted Cruz wants to turn America into a theocracy.  Sure he can go a little overboard with religion at times, but theocracy is pretty far, far fetched.  America at its founding was nowhere near a theocracy and was infinitely closer than we are today.
I don't see Cruz as wanting a theocracy. I see him as some kind of misguided Reagan disciple with a lot to dislike, but some things to like, too. Like I've said before, I think that Cruz, Paul and Sanders are the three candidates in this election actually telling the truth about what they'd do in office, and I respect that even if I disagree with it.

 

Quote:Remember that time when you and a friend did something when you were a kid.  Now I am going to go ask other people who weren't there if it happened 50 years ago and when they have no idea I'll use it as definitive proof that you are lying.

 

I was a quiet, well-mannered young man, but I had anger issues as well...  But then again, that makes me a liar.
I don't know if he's telling the truth and I don't much care. Anyone who's going to be bothered by that probably already hates the guy.

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#46

Cruz definitely wants a theocracy.  He believes the way to turn the country around is very much based on his religion and his religious values.  His idea of religious liberty (much like that of Mike Huckabee) is absolutely ridiculous.  


I'm not sure how anyone can say that he's one of the few candidates who actually says what he believes.  Especially when he's the candidate who once said that a politician shouldn't wear his religion on his sleeve, and now it's firmly planted on his sleeve.  


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#47

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I've always found Cruz not to be very genuine at all.  He's up there with Huckabee with how disingenuous he seems.  

 

There's already plenty of vetting in place.  You want MORE vetting?  Again, if ISIS wants to get in, they're going to come in as Europeans not Syrians.  Since 9/11 only three refugees have been implicated in terrorist activities, and they were all radicalized when they were over here, not before they got here.


If you want to worry about anything, worry how easy it is for ISIS to send someone via Europe.

 

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Yes, more vetting for refugees coming from countries that are openly and violently hostile to the United States.  China and North Korea is one thing, but coming from a radical part of the world hellbent on hurting Americans is totally different and deserves more scrutiny than just your average refugee.  But requiring senior officials to sign off on these orphans and widows would just be too much to handle....  For those that want to absolve themselves of any liability or responsibility while also pandering to their constituents.  

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#48

Quote:I don't see what he stands to gain by making up that story. Any reporter who presses that issue is an ambulance chaser, not a journalist.
 

I agree.  The latest trend for a journalist is to try and find the Ben Carson is a Liar smoking gun to make your name.

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#49

Quote:Yes, more vetting for refugees coming from countries that are openly and violently hostile to the United States.  China and North Korea is one thing, but coming from a radical part of the world hellbent on hurting Americans is totally different and deserves more scrutiny than just your average refugee.  But requiring senior officials to sign off on these orphans and widows would just be too much to handle....  For those that want to absolve themselves of any liability or responsibility while also pandering to their constituents.  
God forbid we know who's coming across our borders from a hostile country.

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#50

Quote:Yes, more vetting for refugees coming from countries that are openly and violently hostile to the United States.  China and North Korea is one thing, but coming from a radical part of the world hellbent on hurting Americans is totally different and deserves more scrutiny than just your average refugee.  But requiring senior officials to sign off on these orphans and widows would just be too much to handle....  For those that want to absolve themselves of any liability or responsibility while also pandering to their constituents.  

Yes, because we all know ISIS is going to take the much harder route to get here by going through an already strict vetting process, instead of coming over here through Europe and countries that aren't openly violent and hostile to the United States.

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#51

Quote:Cruz definitely wants a theocracy.  He believes the way to turn the country around is very much based on his religion and his religious values.  His idea of religious liberty (much like that of Mike Huckabee) is absolutely ridiculous.  


I'm not sure how anyone can say that he's one of the few candidates who actually says what he believes.  Especially when he's the candidate who once said that a politician shouldn't wear his religion on his sleeve, and now it's firmly planted on his sleeve.  
 

There's still a long chain before you can connect wanting to move America back into a more Christian country again and a theocracy.  America has lost a lot of its morality and the complete severance from Christianity is a reasonable argument.  

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#52

Quote:That Ted Cruz wants to turn America into a theocracy. Sure he can go a little overboard with religion at times, but theocracy is pretty far, far fetched. America at its founding was nowhere near a theocracy and was infinitely closer than we are today.


He is a zealot. You think he would reign that in when given more influence and power? He has already used religion as a driving force behind change in his home state. It's great if you are a believer of his brand of Christianity, but awful if you're not. His father is on record as wanting to force religion on people and his actions in his gradual rise to prominence tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Aside from that, he is an antagonistic donkey hole who has contempt for anyone not like him. When George W Bush says "I just don't like the guy." That tells me something. That guy spent 8 years with Cheney for crying out loud. I cringe to think of what a Cruz presidency would do for the average American and I think he would have the worst foreign policy record in our nation's history as he is not someone who has shown the ability to build bridges or compromise. He pouts and throws tantrums. I don't see the attraction whatsoever with this guy. I wouldn't urinate in his mouth if his teeth were on fire.
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#53

Quote:Yes, because we all know ISIS is going to take the much harder route to get here by going through an already strict vetting process, instead of coming over here through Europe and countries that aren't openly violent and hostile to the United States.
 

I don't even know what you mean by coming over here through Europe.  You're going to have to explain yourself on that one before I can give any real response.  You mean by Syrians lying and saying that they are from Western Europe?  Wouldn't that be a case to make for more vetting?

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#54

Quote:He is a zealot. You think he would reign that in when given more influence and power? He has already used religion as a driving force behind change in his home state. It's great if you are a believer of his brand of Christianity, but awful if you're not. His father is on record as wanting to force religion on people and his actions in his gradual rise to prominence tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Aside from that, he is an antagonistic donkey hole who has contempt for anyone not like him. When George W Bush says "I just don't like the guy." That tells me something. That guy spent 8 years with Cheney for crying out loud. I cringe to think of what a Cruz presidency would do for the average American and I think he would have the worst foreign policy record in our nation's history as he is not someone who has shown the ability to build bridges or compromise. He pouts and throws tantrums. I don't see the attraction whatsoever with this guy. I wouldn't urinate in his mouth if his teeth were on fire.
 

Bush doesn't like Ted Cruz because when Cruz was Texas Solicitor General, Cruz fought tooth and nail to defeat Bush when Bush tried to get 51 Mexican nationals convicted of murder set free and returned to Mexico as part of the Vienna Convention.  

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#55

Quote:There's still a long chain before you can connect wanting to move America back into a more Christian country again and a theocracy.  America has lost a lot of its morality and the complete severance from Christianity is a reasonable argument.  

Wanting to move America back into a more Christian nation is absolutely wanting a theocracy.  The only way he's going to get that is to force his values one people.  

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#56

Quote:There's still a long chain before you can connect wanting to move America back into a more Christian country again and a theocracy.  America has lost a lot of its morality and the complete severance from Christianity is a reasonable argument.  
What some called lost morality, others call gained liberty.

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#57

So it has nothing to do with him being a jerkwad? I am certain others have battled W on any # of things, yet Cruz is the only one I have heard him publicly say he doesn't like.
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#58

Quote:Wanting to move America back into a more Christian nation is absolutely wanting a theocracy.  The only way he's going to get that is to force his values one people.  
 

It's no more a theocracy than wanting a new national minimum wage of $15 being socialist.  The only way they're going to get that is to force their values on people.

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#59

Quote:What some called lost morality, others call gained liberty.
 

Yup.  Liberty.  You're free from having to listen to two parents - now you only have to listen to your single, working mother or more importantly big, government.

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#60

Quote:I don't even know what you mean by coming over here through Europe.  You're going to have to explain yourself on that one before I can give any real response.  You mean by Syrians lying and saying that they are from Western Europe?  Wouldn't that be a case to make for more vetting?
 

No, I don't mean a Syrian lie about where they come from.  I mean get a Radicalized European Citizen to fly over here on a visa waiver, and then they live here under the radar.

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