Only one favorite and that is Ben Carson.

 

He's the only one that I would currently vote for if the election was today.

I can't make heads or tails of Dr. Carson. I feel like he might be the most reasonable Republican candidate outside of Rand Paul, and the one most likely to work across the aisle because he is a total political novice.

 

On the other side, he is a total political novice, I question his sincerity on a few topics (which actually might not be a bad thing), and some of the ideas that come out of his mouth, like using drones to bomb ourselves, are completely off the wall. He's someone that I'll be watching closely as the campaign wears on, especially if we get to a point where it's apparent that Paul's campaign is no longer viable.

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I am a man with no candidate. Republicans offer up social conservatives and TV stars and the Dems offer up an open socialist and a lady who is a career scumbag. I will likely vote Gary Johnson just in the hopes that the Libertarian Party gets enough votes to be able to participate in the debates in 2020.

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Oh, it has absolutely moved left. As far left as the Republican Party has right. Meanwhile, those of us who reside in the center are left picking the least extreme option we can find. I think the two least extreme options are Rand Paul and Martin O'Malley, and I'm not even sure I like O'Malley all that much. I sure do wish we had a centrist party for reasonable people to vote for.

The left has moved more to the left because that is what the constituency has moved to.


There is a theme with the "moved far to the right candidates" and it has little to do with law or policy and more to do with theocracy IMO. I wonder if it's the base or the politicians that pushed for that move away from moderate.

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 more to do with theocracy IMO.

 

Absolute hogwash with no supporting evidence. If this were true Rick Santorum or Mike Huckabee would be leading the polls.

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Absolute hogwash with no supporting evidence. If this were true Rick Santorum or Mike Huckabee would be leading the polls.

 

I said the "moved to the far right candidates". I was very clear with that. Maybe drink your coffee before you try to internet?

 

To your point however, Santorum finished #2 to Romney and the current #2 in the polls is Mr biblical tax code. So yeah, hogwash indeed. 

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I said the "moved to the far right candidates". I was very clear with that. Maybe drink your coffee before you try to internet?

 

To your point however, Santorum finished #2 to Romney and the current #2 in the polls is Mr biblical tax code. So yeah, hogwash indeed. 

 

You don't consider Paul, Cruz, or Trump far right candidates? Trump can't even quote a single passage in the bible yet most talking heads consider him a far-right extremist.

 

Regardless, the "far-right candidates" who you consider theocrats are not doing well at all in the polls. They don't represent the base, and never will.

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Ted Cruz is pretty much on the theocracy bandwagon.  


Trump isn't really far right.  The man wants universal healthcare.  Didn't they make him sign a pledge?  He's far right on some issues, sure.  But that's bound to happen.


Wouldn't say Rand Paul is far right either.  He's a light version of his father.  It's just too bad he doesn't have the guts his father did.  Of course if he did, they'd steer away from him.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

You don't consider Paul, Cruz, or Trump far right candidates? Trump can't even quote a single passage in the bible yet most talking heads consider him a far-right extremist.

I like Paul because he holds some far-right views (like me) and some left of center views (like me). I disagree with him on a lot, but his extremely far-left views on privacy, the NSA and the Department of Homeland Insecurity are more than enough for me to excuse his views on same-sex marriage and abortion. I can compromise when someone agrees with me strongly enough on what I consider to be the most important issue facing our nation today. I think he's actually the closest to center in this whole election, although he gets there the way I do in terms of being left or right on issues, not exactly centrist much of the time.

 

Cruz is about as far right as right can go before you start talking fascism and theocracy, and Trump is...well...Trump's a clown with no ideology beyond, "I have lots of money and pretty much say whatever I want to."

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Ted Cruz is pretty much on the theocracy bandwagon.  


Trump isn't really far right.  The man wants universal healthcare.  Didn't they make him sign a pledge?  He's far right on some issues, sure.  But that's bound to happen.


Wouldn't say Rand Paul is far right either.  He's a light version of his father.  It's just too bad he doesn't have the guts his father did.  Of course if he did, they'd steer away from him.

 

Paul is definitely on the far right.

 



 

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Also interesting (because it has Trump while the others didn't).

 



 

 

extremely far-left views on privacy, the NSA and the Department of Homeland Insecurity

 

Nothing about Paul's views on privacy, the NSA, and Homeland Security are far-left...

 

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I can't make heads or tails of Dr. Carson. I feel like he might be the most reasonable Republican candidate outside of Rand Paul, and the one most likely to work across the aisle because he is a total political novice.


On the other side, he is a total political novice, I question his sincerity on a few topics (which actually might not be a bad thing), and some of the ideas that come out of his mouth, like using drones to bomb ourselves, are completely off the wall. He's someone that I'll be watching closely as the campaign wears on, especially if we get to a point where it's apparent that Paul's campaign is no longer viable.

His lack of political experience doesn't concern me much. He's highly intelligent, well spoken and to me seems level headed. I do not agree with every view he has but I agree with a lot of what he seems to be about.


The drone thing has been taken a little out of context (but it's still a little out there) in regards to using them for bombing. He suggested using them for destroying trafficking/drug smuggling caves and tunnels. He did not say he would use them to kill people or anything to do with "us" when he made these claims. At least not that I found. I question the ability to determine there are no people in these caves or tunnels. That's the part I'm not with. He's opposed to the idea of putting up a big wall along the border (and I am too) and this was one way he mentioned to try and control the border over putting up a fence.

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You don't consider Paul, Cruz, or Trump far right candidates? Trump can't even quote a single passage in the bible yet most talking heads consider him a far-right extremist.

 

Regardless, the "far-right candidates" who you consider theocrats are not doing well at all in the polls. They don't represent the base, and never will.

Yes Santorum finishing 2 and bible tax code as 2 right now sure proves your point doesn't it.

 

Paul and Trump are not far right extremists. I don't consider Libertarians far right extremists and Trump has taken some moderate stances on things. He's been very inflammatory and a dumdum but I don't think he's a far right extremists. Cruz is though. 

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Jaguar Warrior,  thanks for sharing the charts.

 

At least from my perspective,  it really comes down to what issues are most important to a person when deciding which candidates to support.   While my preference is for the candidate I support to be Conservative on every issue,  if he/ she is Conservative on the key issues for me,   that's going to have the most weight in my decision.   With Ted Cruz,  I get the best of both worlds.  

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His lack of political experience doesn't concern me much. He's highly intelligent, well spoken and to me seems level headed. I do not agree with every view he has but I agree with a lot of what he seems to be about.


The drone thing has been taken a little out of context (but it's still a little out there) in regards to using them for bombing. He suggested using them for destroying trafficking/drug smuggling caves and tunnels. He did not say he would use them to kill people or anything to do with "us" when he made these claims. At least not that I found. I question the ability to determine there are no people in these caves or tunnels. That's the part I'm not with. He's opposed to the idea of putting up a big wall along the border (and I am too) and this was one way he mentioned to try and control the border over putting up a fence.

 

Drones on the border wouldn't be bad, but they aren't a deterrent unless the border patrol is immediately responding to every single detection (or you are shooting at them). A massive wall is absolutely a deterrent. Add a couple of automated machine gun turrets to the top and you are in business .

 

Yes Santorum finishing 2 and bible tax code as 2 right now sure proves your point doesn't it.

 

Paul and Trump are not far right extremists. I don't consider Libertarians far right extremists and Trump has taken some moderate stances on things. He's been very inflammatory and a dumdum but I don't think he's a far right extremists. Cruz is though. 

 

Yeah, Santorum really had a shot and represents the constituency, let me tell you. Primary results below, green is Santorum, yellow is Ron Paul, purple is Gingrich, orange is Romney.

 

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For me personally, I don't look for a candidate to be one way or another on all issues.


I'm not one way or another on all issues. I'm a mixed bag. I wouldn't consider myself far right or far left.


I will say I'll be hesitant to vote for another career politician until one convinces me otherwise.


I have seen plenty enough from career politicians to know there are very few, if any, that I would want as President. I have a hard time believing a word that comes out of their mouth and I cannot vote for that.

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Drones on the border wouldn't be bad, but they aren't a deterrent unless the border patrol is immediately responding to every single detection (or you are shooting at them). A massive wall is absolutely a deterrent. Add a couple of automated machine gun turrets to the top and you are in business .

I disagree.


They're going to go over it, under it or through it. A wall does nothing.

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Drones on the border wouldn't be bad, but they aren't a deterrent unless the border patrol is immediately responding to every single detection (or you are shooting at them). A massive wall is absolutely a deterrent. Add a couple of automated machine gun turrets to the top and you are in business .

 

 

Yeah, Santorum really had a shot and represents the constituency, let me tell you. Primary results below, green is Santorum, yellow is Ron Paul, purple is Gingrich, orange is Romney.

 

 

  While Rick Santorum's candidacy in the last election cycle was all but dead in the fall of 2011,   this time around he has a much more difficult road because of the presence of a number of Conservative candidates and perceived Conservatives in the race.   I like Rick Santorum but I think his chances of getting the nomination are slim.    My hope is he throws his support to Ted Cruz.   If not Cruz,   then Mike Huckabee. 

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I disagree.


They're going to go over it, under it or through it. A wall does nothing.

 

Depends on how good the wall is. Build a great wall and use drone surveillance to discover holes or leaks.

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For me personally, I don't look for a candidate to be one way or another on all issues.


I'm not one way or another on all issues. I'm a mixed bag. I wouldn't consider myself far right or far left.


I will say I'll be hesitant to vote for another career politician until one convinces me otherwise.


I have seen plenty enough from career politicians to know there are very few, if any, that I would want as President. I have a hard time believing a word that comes out of their mouth and I cannot vote for that.

 

  My guess is despite many of us having vastly different views on issues and direction of the United States,   one key thing I believe most of us would agree on is the need for term limits in Congress.   This is an issue that I hope debate moderators bring up for both parties.   I want to see candidates take a pledge for term limits in Congress. 

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  My guess is despite many of us having vastly different views on issues and direction of the United States,   one key thing I believe most of us would agree on is the need for term limits in Congress.   This is an issue that I hope debate moderators bring up for both parties.   I want to see candidates take a pledge for term limits in Congress. 

 

Agreed. Term limits in Congress and in the Supreme Court.

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