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Quote:I'm not too concerned about tax deductions, since that's just the government taking less.


 

IMO, direct payment subsidies, price controls, and protective regulation are worse. See 'Big Sugar' for a prime example of government gone too far.
I'd vote for a politician running on eliminating all subsidies and tax exemptions though the latter requires a complex overall of the overall tax code. 
Quote:Try thinking critically and on your own. You may come to an original thought. It's actually fun.


Just cuz u say subsidy and higher prices doesn't make that spurious correlation any more true. As my food stamp example had proven. :-)


History makes it true. The cost of food HAS gone up and it would MUCH cheaper if there were fewer people buying it.


And your continued use of the word critical doesn't make you right and me wrong, though history bears out that I am and you aren't.
Quote:I'd vote for a politician running on eliminating all subsidies and tax exemptions though the latter requires a complex overall of the overall tax code.


I agree though that would also require eliminating corporate taxation as well.
Quote:I'd vote for a politician running on eliminating all subsidies and tax exemptions though the latter requires a complex overall of the overall tax code. 
 

Sign me up.

Quote:I'm not too concerned about tax deductions, since that's just the government taking less.


IMO, direct payment subsidies, price controls, and protective regulation are worse. See 'Big Sugar' for a prime example of government gone too far.


See the ohio river for deregulation. There is a necessary place for regulation of business...
Quote:I agree though that would also require eliminating corporate taxation as well.
Why'd you have to go and bring evil corporations into this? Wink
Quote:I agree though that would also require eliminating corporate taxation as well.

You assert that corporations are people... but think they shouldn't pay taxes like everyone else?  (Or think that they don't, which is silly as asserted by others here)
Quote:Why'd you have to go and bring evil corporations into this? Wink


Its clearly the Koch brothers fault that these states are losing millions to liberal political cronies who cant create a working Exchange.
Quote:You assert that corporations are people... but think they shouldn't pay taxes like everyone else?  (Or think that they don't, which is silly as asserted by others here)


The people that make up the corporations are already taxed enough.
Quote:You assert that corporations are people... but think they shouldn't pay taxes like everyone else?  (Or think that they don't, which is silly as asserted by others here)
 

What, do you think the CEO's salary will go down if taxes are raised? Corporations add the taxes onto the price of the good or service. The customers end up paying the taxes.

Quote:I agree though that would also require eliminating corporate taxation as well.
Not that I would be opposed to it solely on principle but why would it require eliminating corporate taxation?

Quote:Not that I would be opposed to it solely on principle but why would it require eliminating corporate taxation?
 

You think you're going to have politicians risk their necks eliminating subsidies without some corresponding benefit to the commercial sector? Whoever proposed that would get Kennedy'd inside a month.
Quote:You think you're going to have politicians risk their necks eliminating subsidies without some corresponding benefit to the commercial sector? Whoever proposed that would get Kennedy'd inside a month.
Hence the problem with money in politics. 
Quote:Hence the problem with money in politics.


Politics IS money, the sooner you accept that the happier you'll be in life.
Quote:Politics IS money, the sooner you accept that the happier you'll be in life.
Bless you heart for being so true to your party line that you just accept things as they are rather than as they ought to be. You are a good little soldier. 
Quote:Bless you heart for being so true to your party line that you just accept things as they are rather than as they ought to be. You are a good little soldier.


Realism vs idealism, but your ideal differs greatly from mine. Your"ought to be" is my "no way in hell should it be." I don't want things the way they are, but my preferred changes would be the opposite direction from yours
Quote:The people that make up the corporations are already taxed enough.


If we're making blanket statements, I'd say the low level workers and mid level employees probably are taxed enough.


Senior and executive management? Clearly not enough.
Quote:What, do you think the CEO's salary will go down if taxes are raised? Corporations add the taxes onto the price of the good or service. The customers end up paying the taxes.


Sorry Malabar, in terms of corporate income tax, you are wrong. CIT is taxed after calculations of revenue and expenses. Google an IRS 1120
Quote:Politics IS money, the sooner you accept that the happier you'll be in life.


So if politics is money, you would agree that those with the money control our government. And you wish those people to have more money and thus more power?


Seems like you should rethink your positions...
Quote:Realism vs idealism, but your ideal differs greatly from mine. Your"ought to be" is my "no way in hell should it be." I don't want things the way they are, but my preferred changes would be the opposite direction from yours


Your realism created a situation where you are defending those that do not represent your best economic interests... unless you are a millionaire...
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