Quote:This contest is not where the battle line must be drawn. The right to freedom of speech is not under serious threat in this country, despite what the self serving fear mongers would have you believe.
I disagree, the terrorists are irrational psychopaths, looking for anything upon which to release their rage. It was pure luck they did not succeed in killing anyone, but if they had, it would have been a senseless loss of life.
It's by pure luck that these irrational psychopaths have not organized a jihad by which the state(s) are engulfed in war as the middle east is, and has been for hundreds of years...If we don't get control of these irrational psychopaths, there will be war in the streets just like their homeland...
Quote:May be bogus, but the premise is real. The refuse to conform in to our society. Form their own little enclaves in our neighborhoods and practice every tenet of their so called faith. They use our rights as outlined against us by forcing themselves and their faith down our throats as something that everyone should practice.
This could easily apply to other groups as well.
Quote:This could easily apply to other groups as well.
Have you ever had Islam thrust down your throat? I must be living in a different country. Every Muslim I've met, and it's more than a few, just wants to live in peace.
Now, about the Amish, there's your enclave.
Quote:Have you ever had Islam thrust down your throat? I must be living in a different country. Every Muslim I've met, and it's more than a few, just wants to live in peace.
Now, about the Amish, there's your enclave.
Not yet, but if we don't put a stop to their aggression in our own country it just might end up being just that
Quote:Have you ever had Islam thrust down your throat? I must be living in a different country. Every Muslim I've met, and it's more than a few, just wants to live in peace.
Now, about the Amish, there's your enclave.
Yes because the Amish insist that us English conform to their way of life. Poor comparison since the Amish want to be left alone to their own way of life. Well I say that because I have never heard of a radical Amish person blowing up a skyscraper or beheading a nonconformist. I could be wrong though.
Quote:Yes because the Amish insist that us English conform to their way of life. Poor comparison since the Amish want to be left alone to their own way of life. Well I say that because I have never heard of a radical Amish person blowing up a skyscraper or beheading a nonconformist. I could be wrong though.
The vast majority of Muslims in this country want the same thing. The problem is those who believe in radicalized interpretations of their faith have managed to stir up irrational fears. Overreaction to those fears plays right into their hands.
You obviously totally missed the point of my reply to The Drifter.
Yes, there are Muslim communities in the US. They have been here for decades. They hate what happened on 9/11 as much, even more, than the rest of us. They don't want to force Sharia law on us, or force us to be Muslims. They just want to be free to live and prosper.
Like the Amish.
This board really needs a sarcasm font.
Speaking of crazies.imo anyway.
Baptist Church sign saying " Homosexuals must repent or go to hell".
Right here in Mandarin. Stating it's free speech and countering with it being his sincere prayer ( pastor) that perhaps one practicing homosexual will read the sign, repent before its too late and cast into hell. One argued that it could be taken as a threat. Whew.
Many area residents upset, but church has the right to freedom of speech.
So as we deem Muslims as crazies, we have a few Christians who teeter on the brink. But again, it's just my 2 cents, and right to freedom of speech ( well...certain freedoms, but limitations here...so I don't mean this to be religious in nature .... Heaven forbid)
Point is...no one agrees with everyone and almost everyone has their own agenda.
I wonder how it'd go if a muslim said (even jokingly) "I almost wish every person in America would be forced at gunpoint to listen to every message this muslim televangelist has had. Our country would be better off for it."
Quote:So as we deem Muslims as crazies, we have a few Christians who teeter on the brink. But again, it's just my 2 cents, and right to freedom of speech ( well...certain freedoms, but limitations here...so I don't mean this to be religious in nature .... Heaven forbid)
Point is...no one agrees with everyone and almost everyone has their own agenda.
I'm borrowing a page from the Amish book and shunning both "groups".
Quote:I'm borrowing a page from the Amish book and shunning both "groups".
And we'll have shun shun shun till daddy takes religion away
With apologies to Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys