Quote:Came up during the game in the second half. I think that's in general. I still think last night's game tops the Buffalo come back over Houston considering it was a Superbowl.
This being the Super Bowl, there is no comparison. It was the largest Super Bowl comeback in history. There is no game comparable to the Super Bowl.
Quote:I know everyone likes to talk about who would be most trustworthy if your team is trailing in the fourth quarter. Well, Tom Brady showed no order is too tall for him, but the Patriots are rarely in that situation.
The Patriots have been in that situation in almost every Superbowl they have played in with Brady at the helm (even the ones they lost).
Quote:The Patriots have been in that situation in almost every Superbowl they have played in with Brady at the helm (even the ones they lost).
Correct.
This 6 point win was the largest margin of victory for a Super Bowl win for the Patriots.
What struck me at the time was, the Pats drove the length of the field, threw a pick-6, then they received the subsequent kickoff and drove the length of the field again. And it struck me that, even though Atlanta had pulled way ahead, the Atlanta defense had been on the field the whole time, and the New England defense had been on the sideline and was not exactly getting worn out.
So, even though the Falcons were way ahead, I could still see the game turning towards the Pats, because the Falcons defense had to be getting pretty tired.
Well, let's not pretend the Atlanta defense being on the field lost the game for them.
The plays that made the comeback possible were the key sack followed by the hold that put Atlanta out of field goal position.
Those three points would have won it for Atlanta.
Quote:Well, let's not pretend the Atlanta defense being on the field lost the game for them.
The plays that made the comeback possible were the key sack followed by the hold that put Atlanta out of field goal position.
Those three points would have won it for Atlanta.
Exactly. I live in Atlanta, and they're putting the blame on Shanahan for this one. The Falcons are up 8, recover the onside kick midfield with a little over three minutes left. Run the ball, eat up the clock to force the Patriots to use their time outs. Instead the Falcons get cute, Ryan gets sacked, putting them out of FG range, and the Pats have the ball with 2 minutes left and BOTH time outs.
Quote:Correct.
This 6 point win was the largest margin of victory for a Super Bowl win for the Patriots.
This is the 5th game-winning drive in the Superbowl for Brady (including the 2TD comeback in the 4th qtr against Seattle, and last nights epic comeback).
2007: when they lost to NYG,, Brady was pressured the whole game and couldn't do anything. But, with less than 5 minutes left in the 4th, he drives them the length of the field to score a go-ahead TD to Moss with less than 2:00 left in the game. That was an EPIC drive. It wasn't Brady's fault that the Tyree catch happened and the defense folded to lose the game at the very end.
That would've been his 6th epic game-winning drive.
no arguing the guy is the greatest of all time. He willed that team back into this game. Falcons got banged up in the 2nd half and their offense seemed broken.
Quote:Well, let's not pretend the Atlanta defense being on the field lost the game for them.
The plays that made the comeback possible were the key sack followed by the hold that put Atlanta out of field goal position.
Those three points would have won it for Atlanta.
Oh, yes, absolutely. The right thing to do in that situation (admittedly in hindsight) would have been to kneel down twice, force the Pats to use 2 timeouts, and kick the relatively short FG for an insurmountable lead. That would have been game over.
But you have to admit, the Atlanta defense was gassed at the end of the game, and even though Atlanta was way ahead by halftime, the Atlanta defense had been on the field for the great majority of the first half. That's why I thought at the time, if the Pats ever get rolling, they could be hard to stop.
Quote:Exactly. I live in Atlanta, and they're putting the blame on Shanahan for this one. The Falcons are up 8, recover the onside kick midfield with a little over three minutes left. Run the ball, eat up the clock to force the Patriots to use their time outs. Instead the Falcons get cute, Ryan gets sacked, putting them out of FG range, and the Pats have the ball with 2 minutes left and BOTH time outs.
Shanahan? I would think that kind of strategic decision would be up to the head coach.
Brady should retire now. Got his 5th ring, came back after deflate gate to run another SB in Goodell's face. Just hang 'em up on top and let the rest of the NFL move on
Quote:Brady should retire now. Got his 5th ring, came back after deflate gate to run another SB in Goodell's face. Just hang 'em up on top and let the rest of the NFL move on
As long as he's healthy and playing at a high level (and most importantly having fun,) I don't see any reason to retire.
Don't cut the legend short if the legend isn't over.
Now, if he were to start getting concussed and the team start to struggle... yeah, I'd cut that short real quick.
Nope. Just better at problem solving. But best ever? Nope
Quote:Brady should retire now. Got his 5th ring, came back after deflate gate to run another SB in Goodell's face. Just hang 'em up on top and let the rest of the NFL move on
why retire if you are still great and having fun on top of that making millions
Quote:My skepticism is based on Bill Belicheat. He can make any QB look great. Remember Matt Cassel in 2008? How about Jacoby Brissett? We will never know if Tom Brady would be as successful with any other coach because he played for Bill Belicheat his entire career.
I agree with this, without BB I believe Brady is a HOF QB and maybe wins a couple of super bowls. With BB he wins 5 and is the GOAT.
It is a hard thing to argue though just because we can never know what Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, John Elway... etc.. could have been with a BB as a head coach.
Let me rephrase, he should retire because I'm sick of hearing about Tom freaking Brady.
I just wanted to give some reasons besides my personal vendetta.
Brady's style of play (immobile pocket passer, dink & dunk passes) will allow him to play for a few more years. If compared to Favre, who was a gunslinger -- you can make the case that Favre depended on his arm strength and mobility to make plays, and after he turned 40, he lost velocity on his passes and he was much less mobile.
Brady can still sit in the pocket and throw quick 5-yard outs, slants, screens, etc... which is his bread and butter.
Quote:I agree with this, without BB I believe Brady is a HOF QB and maybe wins a couple of super bowls. With BB he wins 5 and is the GOAT.
It is a hard thing to argue though just because we can never know what Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, John Elway... etc.. could have been with a BB as a head coach.
Marino had Don Shula, one of the greatest HC ever, and they couldn't get past the Bills, alot of championship games and their SB appearance.
Elway had Dan Reeves who took 2 different teams to the Superbowl, and lost 3 in 4 years.
Manning played in how many championship games and Superbowls?
The Clutch factor is what elevates Brady. That guy is probably the most clutch QB of all time, at least the most clutch I have ever seen.
BB wasn't on the field last night when the Pats offense HAD to score 2 TDs and 2 point conversions just to tie the game late.
Brady is so clutch.
Most rings yeah. Best ever...don't agree.
Quote:Marino had Don Shula, one of the greatest HC ever, and they couldn't get past the Bills, alot of championship games and their SB appearance.
Elway had Dan Reeves who took 2 different teams to the Superbowl, and lost 3 in 4 years.
Manning played in how many championship games and Superbowls?
The Clutch factor is what elevates Brady. That guy is probably the most clutch QB of all time, at least the most clutch I have ever seen.
BB wasn't on the field last night when the Pats offense HAD to score 2 TDs and 2 point conversions just to tie the game late.
Brady is so clutch.
To be down as much as they were with that little time left and to see brady lead that team to a win......that was honestly like watching magic in action. Only the GOAT was gonna be able to do that.