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Quote:No larry smith sucked and so does alualu.

O no, I get it. You are very clever.

You could go out and sign the exact same player in FA only with a different name, for the exact same amount. He's a sub to average player so he got sub to average player money.. It's decent depth for the next couple of seasons.

Quote:How do you figure? He's never had as few tackles in a season as he had last year with 30, and his 2 sacks on the year is his second lowest only topping last year's total of 1.5. He's never had over 3.5. Typically he gets 1 pass defensed, but he never even had that last year, and he's never had an INT. When it comes to big plays, his career total is 1 forced fumble, and again that wasn't last year. So how is personal worst in terms of stats considered "better than expected"? If that's the case then we have a serious problem with expectations.

 

lmao sounds like a typical jaguar 1st round pick

 

can't believe this waste of space got picked at 10

This sucks.  I hope they aren't anticipating NOT getting Leonard Williams.  AluAlu is garbage.  Of all the picks drafted by Gene Smith, this dude stays.  I thought they were done with the garbage, and now they are playing to win.  This is year 3 isn't it.  They excuses are gone.

Quote:O no, I get it. You are very clever.

Thanks chachi

Quote:There is a big difference in responsibilities//skill sets when it comes to a "technique" . A 0 tech is nowhere near a 3 tech.

 

Absolutely, that's why one is a DE and the other is a DT.

 

Quote:How do you figure? He's never had as few tackles in a season as he had last year with 30, and his 2 sacks on the year is his second lowest only topping last year's total of 1.5. He's never had over 3.5. Typically he gets 1 pass defensed, but he never even had that last year, and he's never had an INT. When it comes to big plays, his career total is 1 forced fumble, and again that wasn't last year. So how is personal worst in terms of stats considered "better than expected"? If that's the case then we have a serious problem with expectations.

He's an average player who got an average player contract extension. He played well last year backing up Red Bryant. People who scream that "he doesn't get sacks" or "lol how many tackles?" simply don't understand his position. Don't see them screaming that Red Bryant doesn't get a lot of sacks.

Quote:This sucks.  I hope they aren't anticipating NOT getting Leonard Williams.  AluAlu is garbage.  Of all the picks drafted by Gene Smith, this dude stays.  I thought they were done with the garbage, and now they are playing to win.  This is year 3 isn't it.  They excuses are gone.

Alualu and Williams play different positions. And Williams can play anywhere on the line. Not the same thing.

Quote:Absolutely, that's why one is a DE and the other is a DT.

 

A 0 tech and 3 tech are both DTs….

 

Here is link a to help educate yourself on why Techniques aren't just a DT/DE:

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/20...rototypes/

Quote:He's an average player who got an average player contract extension. He played well last year backing up Red Bryant. People who scream that "he doesn't get sacks" or "lol how many tackles?" simply don't understand his position. Don't see them screaming that Red Bryant doesn't get a lot of sacks.

 

 

It's clear just how well he played. Granted he doesn't get the production stats because of his position so we're grading him more on his run support, of which he had his best year ever... WOW!!!  Dude actually managed a -2.9.  Let sing Caldwell's praises. One more year of improvement and he might actually grade a flat zero.

He got signed to a back-up players deal.. yes you could find another Alualu in FA, but why sign a new guy to learn a whole new team, playbook, scheme. Alualu is still always been known as a high character guy, with good work ethic and if you don't think that stuff matters, you are misunderstanding the deeper value of team and chemistry. to a certain degree, the Alualus are important to a team. I think the negativity of Alualu comes from disappointment of his draft pick. I hate when fans do this to players that are drafted high. If he was a 5th round pick, everyone would be saying what a great pick he was because he contributes from a back up spot. 

 

I would not have lost sleep if he wasn't retained, but this signing is still better than a late draft pick or FA. It's minimal investment for a character guy who knows the scheme and knows he's a backup. He still has to make the team and quantity of players in camp is important for competition. Alualu is expendable if he gets beat out in camp. 

Quote:Trotting backwards Joe. You strongly implied it until reports were he was in talks.

"Who cares he isnt even a jaguar anymore, goodbye"

"With two hurt DL maybe just maybe they dont want him back"


Then slowly went to how little he was worth if he was resigned. But there is no doubt you thought him gone and that the Jags agreed with your assessment he could be replaced easily with an undrafted FA.

I doubt you will ever say you were wrong and the Jaguars have quite a bit different opinion of the player than you do.

Because I have inside sources to the Jaguars front office.


Lol Strongly implied... Dude I work at a furniture store, sorry I couldn't predict Alualu getting a contract proving what I've said about him for years now.


I also strongly implied that he was bad, was I wrong on that? Seriously the only defense people have for him is that he works hard and knows the play book. Great. Awesome.


Does this signing prove anything? He was going to make 4 mil regardless of the contract he just signed. They pretty much gave him a one year extension for 1.75mil, I said he was worth 1.5mil a year, sounds pretty spot on to me.


Lol I love how you didn't say anything to me until Alualu got his special teamers contract. Why were you so scared?


I was wrong because I couldn't predict a professional football teams contract signing... Not because I've been telling people how bad Alualu has been for years or anything. Does this change anything on who we draft or sign in free agency? Does this contract make Alualu a good football player? No.


Dude even people who argued with me the most hate this signing, I'm glad you can continue to tweak your nipples to the guy, but he is still terrible.

At least Tyson Alualu is a decent human being whom is well liked by his teammates.  He works hard and remains out of trouble.  He is versitle able to play both DT & DE as needed and doesnt complain about being on the bench.

 

As far as his salary why do we as fans truly care what the owner pays him, the team is well under the salary cap....

 

Yeah I was shocked I thought the guy might get cut so getting paid so high was a head scratcher but its not like its a bad thing.  I mean the guy knows the playbook, coaches, and will help out the team overall.

Quote:Tyson Alualu returning to JAX. His Run D grade in recent years:

2011 -17.7

2012 -11.1

2013 -6.3

2014 -2.9

 

Either improvement or less playing time

 

Alualu backed up Big Red Bryant last season, playing 471 snaps to 536 for Bryant.

Tyson Alualu is responsible for two gaps during obivious running schemes, a five-technique end whom on occasion will play DT 3 tech.

Quote:It's clear just how well he played. Granted he doesn't get the production stats because of his position so we're grading him more on his run support, of which he had his best year ever... WOW!!!  Dude actually managed a -2.9.  Let sing Caldwell's praises. One more year of improvement and he might actually grade a flat zero.

 

Well, I guess you just don't think that average players deserve to be kept with average contract extensions to back up the above-average player.

Quote:Well, I guess you just don't think that average players deserve to be kept with average contract extensions to back up the above-average player.

I can almost guarantee you that another defensive lineman will be added to the roster. An "average" back up on a bottom 5 defense will then be an "average" back up to the backup to the above average player you speak of.

Quote:Because I have inside sources to the Jaguars front office.


Lol Strongly implied... Dude I work at a furniture store, sorry I couldn't predict Alualu getting a contract proving what I've said about him for years now.


I also strongly implied that he was bad, was I wrong on that? Seriously the only defense people have for him is that he works hard and knows the play book. Great. Awesome.


Does this signing prove anything? He was going to make 4 mil regardless of the contract he just signed. They pretty much gave him a one year extension for 1.75mil, I said he was worth 1.5mil a year, sounds pretty spot on to me.


Lol I love how you didn't say anything to me until Alualu got his special teamers contract. Why were you so scared?


I was wrong because I couldn't predict a professional football teams contract signing... Not because I've been telling people how bad Alualu has been for years or anything. Does this change anything on who we draft or sign in free agency? Does this contract make Alualu a good football player? No.


Dude even people who argued with me the most hate this signing, I'm glad you can continue to tweak your nipples to the guy, but he is still terrible.

You miss the point as you frequently do.

On the "whatever happened to Alualu" thread you busted a nut screaming how the Jags were letting the player walk and this validated your assessment of the player.. You posted about 5 times calling people out, High Score, Pirkster, people were  not even responding to you and still you continued. How many times did you say, "funny looks like I was right"? Quite a few.

 

What you were saying is you were validated by the front office in your belief that the player is terrible.

Well you were not right, the Jaguars do not think he is TERRIBLE, the team obviously considers the man a player that can contribute. So wrong one more time.

 

I did post on the topic of resigning Alualu, not directly to you, are you the Alualu King or something? You sure act like it.

All you did was look stupid, calling people out about how right you were.

Learn to take your lumps and move on. Post an opinion and move on. People that post 30 times on a thread jumping up and down saying they were right, that the Jags were letting Alualu walk because he cannot play, Calling people out, saying Pirkster is a moron, "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M JOE,I WAS RIGHT, LOL LOL LOL!! "

What a mouth.

Then when called out on it, you backtrack for the 100th time and say, DUDE, SORRY I CAN'T PREDICT CONTRACTS, I'M JUST JOE, I WORK AT A FURNITURE STORE!

Yes, that it is obvious.

Aluahu hate just completely blows my mind. Go see what other DT are getting at his position. Who would we get to fill his roster spot? A rookie or a 3rd string DL from some other team.

 

Get over it everyone. He is a backup.

 

GO JAGS!

Quote:You miss the point as you frequently do.

On the "whatever happened to Alualu" thread you busted a nut screaming how the Jags were letting the player walk and this validated your assessment of the player.. You posted about 5 times calling people out, High Score, Pirkster, people were not even responding to you and still you continued. How many times did you say, "funny looks like I was right"? Quite a few.


What you were saying is you were validated by the front office in your belief that the player is terrible.

Well you were not right, the Jaguars do not think he is TERRIBLE, the team obviously considers the man a player that can contribute. So wrong one more time.


I did post on the topic of resigning Alualu, not directly to you, are you the Alualu King or something? You sure act like it.

All you did was look stupid, calling people out about how right you were.

Learn to take your lumps and move on. Post an opinion and move on. People that post 30 times on a thread jumping up and down saying they were right, that the Jags were letting Alualu walk because he cannot play, Calling people out, saying Pirkster is a moron, "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M JOE,I WAS RIGHT, LOL LOL LOL!! "

What a mouth.

Then when called out on it, you backtrack for the 100th time and say, DUDE, SORRY I CAN'T PREDICT CONTRACTS, I'M JUST JOE, I WORK AT A FURNITURE STORE!

Yes, that it is obvious.

Take it personally why don't ya. How hard is it to not read something? If you don't like my posts, put me on your ignore list.


Where was I "screaming" Alualu would not be on the roster? The one post i made when HE WASNT ON THE ROSTER? Or was it when I said that MAYBE the front office didn't want to sign him? There's thay word MAYBE again...


Lol big deal, Alualu got a backup players contract. Awesome.


Alualu is terrible. McClendon is on the roster, is he not terrible? People ROASTED McClendon's play last year, are you getting your panties in a twist over that? Technically no one in the history of the NFL is terrible because they made it to the NFL, do I need to sugar coat words for them too?


I was saying I was right about Alualu's level of play. You literally took 2 posts that IMPLIED I said he wouldn't be on the roster.


Lol the furniture store comment was more of an insult to you relying on my ability to predict the contract signings of a billion dollar industry. Luckily, you don't have to be a billionaire to recognize how bad Alualu is at football. As our roster stands RIGHT NOW, Alualu is a rotational/ special teams player. After free agency and the draft, it's quite possible he will only be a special teams player.


Here we go, this is where you grasp at straws trying to say he's not TERRIBLE because he has a job. McClendon has a job, the worst player on the worst team has a job, does that make them a good football player? Had Alualu not opted out of his contract, he still would of been paid 4mil, do you think that a one year extension for 1.whatever mil is a contract for a good player?


Ya know what, just to save your time, I'll say I was wrong about them not wanting to resign him. Was I wrong about his play? You can figure out why Alualu didn't test FA right? I'll tell you, it's because he would get nothing near to what he got here.


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