While I am having problems providing links on this forum, in the Titans mail box at ESPN.com, there is this comment...
"Mike Sando (ESPN Reporter) spoke with one GM who said he believes the Jaguars are more likely to trade out of the No. 3 spot than the Titans are to trade out of No. 2"
If this trade down happens it will be because the Titans ask for too much and the Jags ask for a lot less.
One crazy option I heard last night of PFT TV from Brian Westbrook, (which obviously means nothing) is that the Eagles might give up their entire draft (all their picks in the 2015 draft). If they perhaps added a No. 2 in 2016, that might be enough for the Jags to fill their roster with players drafted. It would also give Caldwell plenty of picks to trade up and grab the players he wants in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (2nd Day).
The Eagles are projected to have picks: 20, 52, 84, 119, 155, 191, 228
THIS IS JUST A RUMOUR, and so it should be treated as such.
Your thoughts are much welcomed though.
I'd pretty much go nuts if that happened.
IMO, moving from pick 3 to pick 20 in the first round is just not desirable for a team needing an impact player on this roster. The mass of picks is nice, but losing a difference maker more likely found towards the top half of the round, is tough. If the Jags trade down, I don't see them going for a deal taking them outside of the tope 10-12 picks.
Although I don't see an RG3 type of deal, to move down 17 spots with Philly, I think you'd see at least one future 1st round selection in a deal.
What if the Jags Top 5 Picks were:
Rd 1(20): Todd Gurley - RB - Georgia
Rd 2(36): Maxx Williams - TE - Minnesota
Rd 2(52): Carl Davis - DT - Iowa
Rd 3(67): Derron Smith - FS - Fresno State
Rd 3(840: Donovan Smith - ORT - Penn State
We know for 100% sure that the Jags are NOT taking a QB at #3, and from everything I hear and read, it looks like the #3 pick will probably be Williams.
I would think that if Williams goes before the Jags draft at 3, there is a very good chance they trade down and get more picks.
That's how I see it.
Of course a lot can happen between now and the draft.
Totally agree, that if Williams is there the Jags take Leonard Williams, but if not, then the Jags may trade down with the Eagles for a package of picks that the Titans don't feel is enough to justify moving up to Pick 2.
The jags need both Winston and Marriota to have excellent combines so more teams can fall in love with them.
Quote:IMO, moving from pick 3 to pick 20 in the first round is just not desirable for a team needing an impact player on this roster. The mass of picks is nice, but losing a difference maker more likely found towards the top half of the round, is tough. If the Jags trade down, I don't see them going for a deal taking them outside of the tope 10-12 picks.
Although I don't see an RG3 type of deal, to move down 17 spots with Philly, I think you'd see at least one future 1st round selection in a deal.
There can be quality players picked in the teens and the second half of the first round. Look at the 2013 draft where the whole top of the draft looked pretty bad. There's no guarantee that a guy is going to pan out if he's picked higher.
Yeah, I would think there would be a future first rounder too.
I suppose w might struggle on the elite pass rusher, but I think we could easily find a difference maker at 20.
There should be a good TE, OT or LB available. Maybe even a RB.
Quote:IMO, moving from pick 3 to pick 20 in the first round is just not desirable for a team needing an impact player on this roster. The mass of picks is nice, but losing a difference maker more likely found towards the top half of the round, is tough. If the Jags trade down, I don't see them going for a deal taking them outside of the tope 10-12 picks.
Although I don't see an RG3 type of deal, to move down 17 spots with Philly, I think you'd see at least one future 1st round selection in a deal.
I'd be happy with moving down that far, so long as the compensation is right. There are always good players found throughout the draft. It really comes down to whether you trust Caldwell to make solid picks, but so far he's done a nice job of finding talent even with later picks.
Quote:While I am having problems providing links on this forum, in the Titans mail box at ESPN.com, there is this comment...
"Mike Sando (ESPN Reporter) spoke with one GM who said he believes the Jaguars are more likely to trade out of the No. 3 spot than the Titans are to trade out of No. 2"
If this trade down happens it will be because the Titans ask for too much and the Jags ask for a lot less.
One crazy option I heard last night of PFT TV from Brian Westbrook, (which obviously means nothing) is that the Eagles might give up their entire draft (all their picks in the 2015 draft). If they perhaps added a No. 2 in 2016, that might be enough for the Jags to fill their roster with players drafted. It would also give Caldwell plenty of picks to trade up and grab the players he wants in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (2nd Day).
The Eagles are projected to have picks: 20, 52, 84, 119, 155, 191, 228
THIS IS JUST A RUMOUR, and so it should be treated as such.
Your thoughts are much welcomed though.
I was thinking this might be a possibility. If Winston and a defensive lineman come off one and two, three could be a hot pick.
The next to come off the board would likely be the second QB and/or second DL, both of which would be attractive to teams who want the cream of the crop at those positions.
Jags could trade back, pick up selections, and still get impact players.
The only down side to picking up extra picks and moving down, is that the positions we need are somewhat weak, and what we don't necessarily need are somewhat strong. I don't think we'd find near as good a DL moving out of three, and fans may balk at picking up a WR so high even though that make the most sense based on where we trade to and what the board looks like. WR is too deep to think we might pass on that position in every round. The numbers suggest there could be a value pick there at some point.
If a team were to seriously offer you all 7 of their draft picks to move from 20 to 3 in the 1st round, you absolutely would take it. You gain 6 extra picks just to move back 17 spots for 1 pick, hell yeah. Even just ignoring all the flexibility that would give us to create trades to move up to get guys we really like in other rounds, just by keeping all the picks, we would have 13 picks.
I don't see any situation in which a team would trade their entire draft away to get one guy, but if this happened I would be running around screaming like a little girl. Who cares if we drop 17 spots in the 1st round, we could still get an impact player and then get a lot more with the extra picks.
Quote:If a team were to seriously offer you all 7 of their draft picks to move from 20 to 3 in the 1st round, you absolutely would take it. You gain 6 extra picks just to move back 17 spots for 1 pick, hell yeah. Even just ignoring all the flexibility that would give us to create trades to move up to get guys we really like in other rounds, just by keeping all the picks, we would have 13 picks.
I don't see any situation in which a team would trade their entire draft away to get one guy, but if this happened I would be running around screaming like a little girl. Who cares if we drop 17 spots in the 1st round, we could still get an impact player and then get a lot more with the extra picks.
Unless they threw in a 1st or 2nd rounder in 2016, I don't know if I would take it.
Edit; if it was 3 to 10, 2015 picks would be good....but 17 spots is a huge drop from where you are.
I also don't see any way the Eagles actually do this.
The thing about that deal is that it gives you enough ammo - and time - to go back up into the First and still get a top ten player.
It would be interesting, to say the least.
I would consider this but would want a first for next year, the benefit of this would mean we could draft 2/3 Olineman in the later rounds which is a big need for us
That the thing, the Titans are going to get first call and if they ask for more than a team is willing to give up then the trade does not happen.
Most of us want the Titans to make the trade so that Leonard Williams is available, but if he is not, then is taking Dante Fowler or Shane Ray worth seven draft picks that the Eagles might offer?
If the Jags get too greedy then the trade is made with the Raiders or the Redskins or the Jets and NOT the Jags.
Quote:While I am having problems providing links on this forum, in the Titans mail box at ESPN.com, there is this comment...
"Mike Sando (ESPN Reporter) spoke with one GM who said he believes the Jaguars are more likely to trade out of the No. 3 spot than the Titans are to trade out of No. 2"
If this trade down happens it will be because the Titans ask for too much and the Jags ask for a lot less.
One crazy option I heard last night of PFT TV from Brian Westbrook, (which obviously means nothing) is that the Eagles might give up their entire draft (all their picks in the 2015 draft). If they perhaps added a No. 2 in 2016, that might be enough for the Jags to fill their roster with players drafted. It would also give Caldwell plenty of picks to trade up and grab the players he wants in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (2nd Day).
The Eagles are projected to have picks: 20, 52, 84, 119, 155, 191, 228
THIS IS JUST A RUMOUR, and so it should be treated as such.
Your thoughts are much welcomed though.
This would be awesome if it happened, but I don't see a team giving up their draft for one player.
If the Eagles did not have to commit their 2016 Rd 1 pick, then they might give up their entire 2015 draft so they pay off their debt.
Remember a 2016 Rd 1 pick is equal to a 2015 Rd 2 pick. Two Rd 2 picks equal a Rd 1 pick. A high Rd 2 pick plus a high Rd 4 pick would get the Jags back into the later part of Rd 1.
It is the extra picks that makes the deal attractive because the extra picks allows for trading up to take the player coveted in the Top 125 picks.
Quote:Unless they threw in a 1st or 2nd rounder in 2016, I don't know if I would take it.
Edit; if it was 3 to 10, 2015 picks would be good....but 17 spots is a huge drop from where you are.
I also don't see any way the Eagles actually do this.
You realize that with all those picks, it allows us to trade back into the 1st round and grab another player?
We could end up taking a number of really good players with 14 picks or we make a bunch of trades to move around and take players they know they like.
Quote:You realize that with all those picks, it allows us to trade back into the 1st round and grab another player?
We could end up taking a number of really good players with 14 picks or we make a bunch of trades to move around and take players they know they like.
That's how NE built their team early on, and still do so some today, but not like they use to. Acquire a large amount of picks. It gave them the ability to miss on a couply guys and still be alright because they had numbers on their side.