Yet another stadium planned for the L.A. area, this time in Inglewood. Seeing as this is coming from an existing NFL owner and one able to terminate his lease, we are probably as close as we have been in the last 20 years to getting a team in Los Angeles.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-...tml#page=1
And from reading the article, it sounds like he will not be asking for public money, which would be huge.
Extremely ominous for the fans, however there is a chance he is building it to sell to the invevitable NFL team which is due in LA. He is a property developer afterall.
Still like I say very ominous for ST Louis as its more likely he will be moving them
Don't you like the sponsorship listed on the rendering? Done deal it would seem. As a businessman, Stan is shrewd but as a NFL owner he is tough. Before coming home to Florida, I got to read stories and have the news reports on the STL renovations. Stan wants to wring out the dollars and screw the city big time. The proposals were all very fair for the tax payers but not as equitable as the team wants.
Be prepared for the ST Louis Jaguars rumors. The fan base believes that Mr Kahn is an Illinois guy and will bring the team that is rightfully theirs to the area.
Quote:Extremely ominous for the fans, however there is a chance he is building it to sell to the invevitable NFL team which is due in LA. He is a property developer afterall.
Still like I say very ominous for ST Louis as its more likely he will be moving them
He's not considering building a stadium with his own money in the 2nd largest market in the NFL to put another team there. Regardless of the lip service being paid to St. Louis, the minute they put shovel to dirt for this new stadium, the Rams are preparing to move to LA.
Quote:Don't you like the sponsorship listed on the rendering? Done deal it would seem. As a businessman, Stan is shrewd but as a NFL owner he is tough. Before coming home to Florida, I got to read stories and have the news reports on the STL renovations. Stan wants to wring out the dollars and screw the city big time. The proposals were all very fair for the tax payers but not as equitable as the team wants.
Be prepared for the ST Louis Jaguars rumors. The fan base believes that Mr Kahn is an Illinois guy and will bring the team that is rightfully theirs to the area.
I wouldn't expect to hear anything of the sort considering the fact that St. Louis isn't really an NFL town to begin with. There will be some upset fans when the Rams move back to Los Angeles, but most people there won't care one bit, and they won't be interested in getting another team.
I see it playing out like this.
The Rams move to L.A. in the next year. Probably play at the Rose Bowl or Coliseum while this new stadium is being built. And then in 5 years or so, another team (likely the Chargers or Raiders) move into the same stadium on a share plan similar to the Giants/Jets arrangement.
This new L.A. stadium is going to be the west coast version of Jerry's World. Expect the Super Bowl there every four or five years.
I feel bad for the Rams fans. Kroneke has said as much as 2 words since buying the franchise and when they finally hear from him its to build a new stadium in a different market in an obvious move to relocate the franchise.
And had Khan bought the Rams as he originally tried to do this could've been us.
Quote:I feel bad for the Rams fans. Kroneke has said as much as 2 words since buying the franchise and when they finally hear from him its to build a new stadium in a different market in an obvious move to relocate the franchise.
And had Khan bought the Rams as he originally tried to do this could've been us.
Weaver wouldn't have sold the team to Kroenke because he never would have gotten a commitment to keep the team in Jacksonville. The smartest business decision Weaver made as the owner of the Jaguars was to sell it to Khan. There were other suitors out there interested in buying the team. He was the only one who agreed to stick with the Jacksonville market contractually for 5 years.
Quote:I see it playing out like this.
The Rams move to L.A. in the next year. Probably play at the Rose Bowl or Coliseum while this new stadium is being built. And then in 5 years or so, another team (likely the Chargers or Raiders) move into the same stadium on a share plan similar to the Giants/Jets arrangement.
This new L.A. stadium is going to be the west coast version of Jerry's World. Expect the Super Bowl there every four or five years.
That's probably the most realistic scenario. It'll probably wind up being San Diego since they're actively looking for a new facility, and Oakland has been linked to San Antonio if they do decide to relocate.
While it makes sense from a population & market rating standpoint for a city like LA having 2 teams, I just don't see the fan interest as being substantial enough to support 2 teams. LA, like Miami is a very transient, fickle, and bandwagon city that will quickly turn away if the team is not winning --- 1 team yes - 2 teams, I just can't see it.
Quote:I feel bad for the Rams fans. Kroneke has said as much as 2 words since buying the franchise and when they finally hear from him its to build a new stadium in a different market in an obvious move to relocate the franchise.
And had Khan bought the Rams as he originally tried to do this could've been us.
I don't.
The ones the Rams abandoned back in 1995 or so finally get their team back.
St. Louis should have learned their lessons about keeping stadiums updated, etc., back in 1988, when they lost the Cardinals to Arizona.
Yet the same thing replayed itself with the Rams.
It isn't as if the Rams never produced a championship, either.
St. Louis isn't a football town. In fact, it's one arch shy of being McDonald's.
Quote:Weaver wouldn't have sold the team to Kroenke because he never would have gotten a commitment to keep the team in Jacksonville. The smartest business decision Weaver made as the owner of the Jaguars was to sell it to Khan. There were other suitors out there interested in buying the team. He was the only one who agreed to stick with the Jacksonville market contractually for 5 years.
Let's be real FBT. What's a five year commitment? Kroneke has been the Rams owner for going on 5 years now. He could've been the Jags owner for the same length of time agreeing to Weaver's "commitment" to the city.
If the Rams leave, the NFL in St Louis is over.
This whole moving thing has been debated before. Its very simple, Sell out tickets and the team has no reason to move as of yet (in 2025, We might be talking about a new stadium). The stadium is slowly being upgraded and won't need a full rebuild for awhile.
As long as we sell tickets, The Jags will always be here. If we don't, Then expect it to move. It really is that simple.
Quote:This whole moving thing has been debated before. Its very simple, Sell out tickets and the team has no reason to move as of yet (in 2025, We might be talking about a new stadium). The stadium is slowly being upgraded and won't need a full rebuild for awhile.
As long as we sell tickets, The Jags will always be here. If we don't, Then expect it to move. It really is that simple.
A team has never moved due to lack of ticket sales. Every relocation has been due to stadium issues.
Quote:I don't.
The ones the Rams abandoned back in 1995 or so finally get their team back.
St. Louis should have learned their lessons about keeping stadiums updated, etc., back in 1988, when they lost the Cardinals to Arizona.
Yet the same thing replayed itself with the Rams.
It isn't as if the Rams never produced a championship, either.
St. Louis isn't a football town. In fact, it's one arch shy of being McDonald's.
One arch shy of being McDonalds? Good one.
Quote:A team has never moved due to lack of ticket sales. Every relocation has been due to stadium issues.
Yea because most NFL teams have been in huge market areas. Only until the last 20-30 years have we seen NFL teams in "growing" market areas. It can and will happen in the future. With that said, I highly doubt Lamping will let that happen here with his genius.
And business owners and the rest of the owners in the NFL didn't make it to their level by making bad business decisions. Sticking with a non-growing market with bad sales is a bad business decision.
Quote:Yea because most NFL teams have been in huge market areas. Only until the last 20-30 years have we seen NFL teams in "growing" market areas. It can and will happen in the future. With that said, I highly doubt Lamping will let that happen here with his genius.
And business owners and the rest of the owners in the NFL didn't make it to their level by making bad business decisions. Sticking with a non-growing market with bad sales is a bad business decision.
The NFL is an ever growing market. The reason an NFL owner can never use that as an excuse is because of a little thing called revenue sharing. That's what gives the smaller market teams an equal playing field with the larger market teams. In today's NFL you could do almost nothing from an ownership standpoint and still turn a profit.
Being an NFL owner is like being introduced to an exclusive billionaires club. Its about showing off who has the biggest yacht down at the yacht club. Your stadium is your yacht in this club.
Quote:A team has never moved due to lack of ticket sales. Every relocation has been due to stadium issues.
That doesn't diffuse speculation that there's a perceived lack of fan support prevalent in the national media when talking about Jacksonville and relocation. The perception was based on old information from several years ago when the team was mired in the middle of a series of blackouts. Most journalists have taken note of the dramatic changes in Jacksonville, which is why they don't talk about the Jags as a possible relocation candidate as often as they used to, but there are still a few meatheads in the media who don't really pay attention to things, and they honestly think fans don't support the the Jags locally.
The fact that ticket sales would be a factor in relocation only matters when you're talking about a newer team playing in the smallest media market in the league;
And the NFL offers nothing when asked for a response to Kroneke's group announcement:
Quote:In response to a request for comment from PFT, the league office has provided a statement that sheds no further light on whether Kroenke will be able to move the Rams from St. Louis to Los Angeles as soon as 2016.
“No team has applied for relocation and there will be no team relocations for the 2015 season,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said via email. “We are committed to working towards having franchises that are strong and successful in their existing markets. Any decision on relocation in 2016 or later is subject to approval by the 32 clubs. An affirmative vote by 24 of 32 clubs (three-fourths) is required.”
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