Quote:I'm aware where they come from. The thing is, Alualu plays primarily defensive end, though. Specifically the strong side end. He kicks inside in some situations.
No, I'm not really going to say that he has "exclusively played 5 tech" because he hasn't, nor have I ever said he has. That doesn't mean he's a "defensive tackle". Just like when Darren Sproles lines up at wide receiver in the slot, he's not a wide receiver. He's a running back who will at times line up as a wide receiver, just like Tyson Alualu at times will lineup inside in some packages.
You are aware players can shift around in packages right? That doesn't change their primary position now, does it?
Therefor, complaining about his salary in comparison to people like Marks, who primarily play defensive tackle, is comical.
I'm sorry being able to see that Alualu is a good depth player in his role bothers you, Joe, and thunderbuns so much. How mad were you guys when he didn't get cut last year like I told you he wouldn't? Did you press the keys on the keyboard hard?
I'd tell you to stop arguing with idiots, but I'm having too much fun reading their asinine responses.
Quote:I see your point, but Caldwell and Bradley brought Bryant in. They had nothing to do with Alualu. I can see them releasing Alualu before Bryant. He hasn't lived up to his draft position, but realistically, how many guys do? This is another example of Gene Smith's work at poor drafting.
They brought him in with a contract tailor made to be able to part ways with no ramifications after 1 year. That's not an "our guy" type of contract.
Alfie how mad were you when Branch wasn't cut this year. He had more impact in 5 game than alualubhas in 15.
Alualu is someone you bring back for near the league minimum as a backup, he's simply not worth what he's being paid. Same as Poz, Same as Lewis. You don't pay people starting salary when they are nothing more than backups.
Quote:No, it would still be overpaying for a back up DT... You don't throw good money after bad. That's how you wind up in cap-space hell...
Have we learned nothing over the years?
A back up DT isn't worth that type of money.
Restructure Marks' contract first, then if you want to overspend of a backup DT, then OK. But c'mon, use your head.
Sunk costs don't justify overspending...
Talk about throwing away money, we just restructured Marks at the end of last season. I guess you haven't learned anything.
You aren't going to bring in a decent DE for what we are paying Alualu. Once you consider the signing bonuses, you could easily be paying more next year for someone who may not be even as good.
Quote:Talk about throwing away money, we just restructured Marks at the end of last season. I guess you haven't learned anything.
You aren't going to bring in a decent DE for what we are paying Alualu. Once you consider the signing bonuses, you could easily be paying more next year for someone who may not be even as good.
This DE stuff is pure spin. PASS RUSH DEs make big money. Run stuffers are nothing more than DTs playing on the end of the line. Derrick Harvey was also very good against the run, but wasn't worth anywhere close to $4M per year .. because he wasn't a pass rush threat. Anchorman is right for using DT salaries as a comparison.
As far as Bryant vs. Alualu, show me the stats as to what percentage of the time each of them drew a double team block. If that's also about the same, then they probably truly are equal.
Talk about deciding between mediocre and below average.
I would cut Bryant. He will be 31, and no matter what position you say he plays, he sucks.
He gets no pressure on the QB, 4.5 sacks in his career is not a pass rusher. 93 tackles in his career is not a run stuffer.
Exactly why is he here besides he knows the coach?
On Alualu, we never saw that dominating bull rush he exhibited in College. Probably because he played against Nevada and University of Pacific Heights. Coincidentally, I have him down for the same total number of games as Bryant, 79, he is younger and will be 28 which is a plus but have to sign him knowing his production is not going to show in stats. He might get a tackle a game if that. Considering his draft position of course qualifies him as a complete bust, but is he good for a backup role? Yes if the number is low enough. Perhaps his marriage is crumbling, or he is just getting meaner, but I have seen more evil looks from him this year than any other.
A backup that is cheap, young, and has evil looks may get a key stop when needed, and I don't see him being intimidated by taller men.
Yes, a good backup if cheap, and nobody else is going to want him anyway.
Quote:Shouldn't you be over at your crappy blog being hostile to your readers?
I thought Alfie was dead, like Paul was dead, a vicious rumor I suppose. Instead he is now a legend in his own mind.
"I read the news today oh boy.....Alfie cribbing notes from Prisco rumor mill, and though the news was rather small, I had to read it all, now I know how many lines of make believe it takes to fill the Alfie wall. I'd love to burn... them... all......"
There is definitely a gulf in class between alualu and bryant.
I see bryant in the backfield disrupting the play and forcing the running back to cut it back far more often than alualu.
The only two plays I remember alualu on is his sack (and a couple of sacks in preseason come to think of it) which were good plays but the one that really sticks out is the sproles td which changed the momentum in the eagles game where he got pushed out the way. I blame bradley for not calling a time out but still alualu got manhandled
Had a look on pff and they agree with my vague recollections.
Though alualu has a superior pass rushing grade (neither of them are considered very good pass rushers which is to be expected) bryant's running block grade is 14.2 compared to alualu's -1.7
Perhaps bryants gets more of the run blocking snaps but either way he does well with what he is given. Added bryant only has 70 more snaps than alualu.
He's a decent depth player and he has youth on his side so I'm all for bring him back but I feel he is replacable. That being said hood has a similar if not bigger contract than alualu and has had similar impact in terms of production. If caldwell feels that 3.9 mil is a reasonable salary for a rotational player I wont argue but I'd prefer to see him come back at a lower figure
Has Alfie ever been right on jaguars player evaluations? A magic 8 ball would be more accurate
He was over drafted but every team needs backups like him for depth. Statboys are never going to love the guy but at the right price, why not?
Quote:This DE stuff is pure spin. PASS RUSH DEs make big money. Run stuffers are nothing more than DTs playing on the end of the line. Derrick Harvey was also very good against the run, but wasn't worth anywhere close to $4M per year .. because he wasn't a pass rush threat. Anchorman is right for using DT salaries as a comparison.
As far as Bryant vs. Alualu, show me the stats as to what percentage of the time each of them drew a double team block. If that's also about the same, then they probably truly are equal.
Spin? He is listed as a DE and his total compensation of 2.4 million next year isn't outrageous for even a rotational player at either position. Anchorman should at least get his salary right.
No point in looking at stats that don't exist. All you have to do is compare Bryant's performance to the last few years to see that he hasn't lived up to his own standards and he is getting paid well over what Harvey got paid.
I highly doubt Red is facing an unusual number of double teams playing next to guys like Miller and Marks.
Quote:I thought Alfie was dead, like Paul was dead, a vicious rumor I suppose. Instead he is now a legend in his own mind.
"I read the news today oh boy.....Alfie cribbing notes from Prisco rumor mill, and though the news was rather small, I had to read it all, now I know how many lines of make believe it takes to fill the Alfie wall. I'd love to burn... them... all......"
Hilarious! /\
Quote:Alualu is someone you bring back for near the league minimum as a backup, he's simply not worth what he's being paid. Same as Poz, Same as Lewis. You don't pay people starting salary when they are nothing more than backups.
Good teams rate players based on their skill and contribution. Not on their salary.
Quote:Good teams rate players based on their skill and contribution. Not on their salary.
Funny how Alualu is supposedly paid like a starter and should be cut, yet the actual starter makes nearly 2 million a year more and has been less productive but he is OK.
Yes, technically, Alualu is labeled at DE. So I guess I'm wrong there. But let's face it's he's not a DE in terms of what one expects from a DE. He's a run stopping DE on the strong side playing 5 technique.
So, my apologies for not being 100% accurate.
Also, Alualu's salary is at 2.6 mill per year. But if you read the hacks article, he said signing Alualu to a 3.9 million dollar contract would be a good move because we have the salary space.
A run stopping DE (which he's basically playing a DT type position and role on the D-Line) who's a depth player and not a starting is just dumb. And throwing bad money after good. Which is still my position.
Quote:Funny how Alualu is supposedly paid like a starter and should be cut, yet the actual starter makes nearly 2 million a year more and has been less productive but he is OK.
Alualu is good depth, but he's not a starter. And he's definatley not worth 3.9 million a year, as the article originally referenced to suggests he should be paid...
Per the article, "or bring Alualu back in 2015 for a $3.985 million cap hit."
So the question is, do you think Alualu is worth almost 4 million next year? I personally don't...
Quote:Yes, technically, Alualu is labeled at DE. So I guess I'm wrong there. But let's face it's he's not a DE in terms of what one expects from a DE. He's a run stopping DE on the strong side playing 5 technique.
So, my apologies for not being 100% accurate.
Also, Alualu's salary is at 2.6 mill per year. But if you read the hacks article, he said signing Alualu to a 3.9 million dollar contract would be a good move because we have the salary space.
A run stopping DE (which he's basically playing a DT type position and role on the D-Line) who's a depth player and not a starting is just dumb. And throwing bad money after good. Which is still my position.
It's 2.44 million next year and unlike most people on your salary list, he is due no bonuses next year that would bump up his actual pay.
What would be a harder pill for me to swallow would be to cut Alualu because he is "overpaid" and keep an even less productive guy in the starting role and pay him 4.4 million.
Then again, I evaluate the roster with logic, not spite.
Quote:Alualu is good depth, but he's not a starter. And he's definatley not worth 3.9 million a year, as the article originally referenced to suggests he should be paid...
Per the article, "or bring Alualu back in 2015 for a $3.985 million cap hit."
So the question is, do you think Alualu is worth almost 4 million next year? I personally don't...
On a properly managed team like this a player is compared to other players, not his salary cap hit. Make football decisions, not money decisions.
Quote:Considering where Red would fall on that list and his 4.25 million pay check next year, I would think Alualu and his 2.44 million paycheck would be a steal.
Possibly, but his salary is set to go up to 3.9 in 2015... Is that still worth it for a backup?