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Quote:Love how Alfie says people are making themselves look stupid then proceeds to get destroyed in this thread.


Dudes a joke.

 

LOL, never mind.  He's talking about the cap hit for 2015...  

Quote:Nearly every NFL veteran has experience in different schemes, with different coaches.

Yeah I know. We don't have a lot of veterans so I think they're valuable.

Quote:Edit:  This his his 2015 salary...

 

Base = 2,442,500

 

Signing Bonus = 295,000

Option Bonus  =1,247,500

 

Work-out Bons =150,000

 

Cap Hit = 3,985,000

 

Dead Money = 1,542,500

Tyson doesn't get any bonuses in 2015.

 

The signing and option bonuses were paid in full to him years ago and you can't recoup that charge against your salary cap even if you release him.

 

The numbers you are showing, the 295,000 and the 1,247,500 respectively, are the final amortized portions of the signing and option bonuses which will be  charged to the books in 2015 . When you add those two figures together, you get the dead money hit for 2015 of 1,542,500.

 

Next add the dead money hit to his base salary of 2,442,500 and you will get the Cap Hit of 3,985,000.

 

He quit getting the work-out bonus n 2014. As you can tell, the 2015 salary cap number doesn't account for that extra 150,000.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-...on-alualu/

I can't believe this thread is still alive.  The guy is a backup DE, decent rotational guy who is fine to bring back at a low-cost; he simply isn't starter material and shouldn't be paid as one.  

 

Easily replaced with a late round draft pick who has more upside, but this team is very young so having him as a veteran isn't horrible. 

 

Meh - who really cares if he comes back or not??   It's like bringing Cecil Shorts back - if he's the 5th WR getting the minimum, ok - but not a big deal. 

Probably should worry about upgrading starters before we worry about replacing back ups.

Quote:I can't believe this thread is still alive.  The guy is a backup DE, decent rotational guy who is fine to bring back at a low-cost; he simply isn't starter material and shouldn't be paid as one.  

 

Easily replaced with a late round draft pick who has more upside, but this team is very young so having him as a veteran isn't horrible. 

 

Meh - who really cares if he comes back or not??   It's like bringing Cecil Shorts back - if he's the 5th WR getting the minimum, ok - but not a big deal. 

 

Some people have their reputation for evaluating talent at stake here.

Quote:Probably should worry about upgrading starters before we worry about replacing back ups.

Yup. Good post

Alualu hasn't been bad at all for a rotational guy. Is he overpaid right now (and overdrafted)? Yea! That's not what this is about. From a pure production standpoint, he has been solid filling in for Big Red. If we can bring him back cheap, I'm absolutely OK with it. Take this year to plug more holes, and then next offseason bring in a young guy to develop to replace Red.

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This FTW

Wow, it's like some of you want Alualu to be a bad player.

I like alualu he's been better in his role since Gus got here. I don't pay much attention to the salary cap situations so to me I'm just looking at his contribution as a player he's worth keeping around. That said he can be upgraded but let's find that upgrade first, not like the secondary where we just released average players and 2 years later are hurting to find replacements.

Quote:I like alualu he's been better in his role since Gus got here. I don't pay much attention to the salary cap situations so to me I'm just looking at his contribution as a player he's worth keeping around. That said he can be upgraded but let's find that upgrade first, not like the secondary where we just released average players and 2 years later are hurting to find replacements.

 

Spot on. Finding a replacement at the same level wouldnt result in that much money saved at all. People act like an undrafted player would produce the same as Tyson.

 

If people want to save cap space theres a certain linebacker who can be replaced fairly easily and cheaply. 

Quote:Wow, it's like some of you want Alualu to be a bad player.

 

A lot of people have harped on him being bad for so long that anything good out of Alualu offends them.

Quote:A lot of people have harped on him being bad for so long that anything good out of Alualu offends them.

I don't know about that.  He hasn't played like he was drafted to be.  A rotational guy that makes a tackle or two a game, is not something fans are excited about.  I don't think we should get rid of him until someone better comes around.  Going 10th over-all, and now your a backup to a free agent...sweet.  This has been the Jaguars M.O. for years now.  We have a new regime, and it still hasn't changed much.  I think that's due to having not enough drafts and time to get there vision in place.

All this for a backup?

People take criticism of Alualu way too seriously.


It's a football message board, seriously. People are going to say so-and-so sucks... It's just gonna happen. I doubt people critical of Alualu wish any ill-will toward him. I, for instance, don't have a problem with Alualu on the team, just the blind denial some people have of him being "solid", trying to act like they know everything because they know what a 5 tech is.



Make this a Marcedes Lewis thread and all these butt hurt posters flip script.

Quote:People take criticism of Alualu way too seriously.


It's a football message board, seriously. People are going to say so-and-so sucks... It's just gonna happen. I doubt people critical of Alualu wish any ill-will toward him. I, for instance, don't have a problem with Alualu on the team, just the blind denial some people have of him being "solid", trying to act like they know everything because they know what a 5 tech is.



Make this a Marcedes Lewis thread and all these butt hurt posters flip script.

 

Ask the head writer at Big Cat Country what he thinks about Poz or Andre Branch. His comments about those two will sound an awful lot like the comments on here about Alualu.

Quote:Ask the head writer at Big Cat Country what he thinks about Poz or Andre Branch. His comments about those two will sound an awful lot like the comments on here about Alualu.

 

Poz is a liability in coverage and absurdly overpaid. Andre Branch is at best a backup end who's not a good edge rusher.

 

Yep, sounds the same as saying Alualu is a solid back up player.

Still better than Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves.

Quote:Poz is a liability in coverage and absurdly overpaid. Andre Branch is at best a backup end who's not a good edge rusher.


Yep, sounds the same as saying Alualu is a solid back up player.