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Quote:His name is TMD and he's wrong more than he's right.

 

IIRC he was not the only one who said that.

Quote:I don't care if those guys are going off. Bortles is better than both of them. Just wait until BB has some resemblance of an offensive line.

Agreed, if Teddy took the beating Bortles has this year he would probably still be in the ER

Quote:Who is more pro ready going into the draft, Bridgewater or Winston?


They have a lot of similarities imo

 

Winston has a lot of Bridgewater in him, in that he can anticipate throws very well, but he is built like a steve mcnair/big ben hybrid... easily the number 1 overall pick based on talent. I just dont trust Mariota.. he reminds me of Kaepernick/RG3... i dont think he will have much success in the NFL

Quote:Agreed, if Teddy took the beating Bortles has this year he would probably still be in the ER

 

Bridgewater's o-line is worse than Bortles, Bortles problem is that he holds on to the ball too long and cant make quick decision, the vikings on the other hand are missing 3 starters on the offensive line, and have no adrian peterson... Bridgewater gets rid of the ball on average as quick as Aaron Rodgers according to ESPN stats and info

Quote:Carr's passing stats arent better than teddy's... carr had 2 td's with 0 picks and still ended up with a passer rating under 90.... teddy is the better qb

I never said he was better than Teddy. Why do people on this board keep inventing arguments for me??

Quote:Bridgewater's o-line is worse than Bortles, Bortles problem is that he holds on to the ball too long and cant make quick decision, the vikings on the other hand are missing 3 starters on the offensive line, and have no adrian peterson... Bridgewater gets rid of the ball on average as quick as Aaron Rodgers according to ESPN stats and info

Good luck making that argument here. Our pass protection is historically bad and our receivers get little separation.

Quote:Winston has a lot of Bridgewater in him, in that he can anticipate throws very well, but he is built like a steve mcnair/big ben hybrid... easily the number 1 overall pick based on talent. I just dont trust Mariota.. he reminds me of Kaepernick/RG3... i dont think he will have much success in the NFL

Well being that you think teddy and jameis are similar, I'll just stop reading there.

Quote:Bridgewater's o-line is worse than Bortles, Bortles problem is that he holds on to the ball too long and cant make quick decision, the vikings on the other hand are missing 3 starters on the offensive line, and have no adrian peterson... Bridgewater gets rid of the ball on average as quick as Aaron Rodgers according to ESPN stats and info

Just for fun, you can go back and find where I said back when teddy was still in college that the way he plays the position reminds me of Rodgers.


But I honestly hope bortles, teddy, Carr, even manziel all pan out. The QB play overall in the NFL isn't the best right now. It could use a new wave of stars.

Quote:Bridgewater's o-line is worse than Bortles, Bortles problem is that he holds on to the ball too long and cant make quick decision, the vikings on the other hand are missing 3 starters on the offensive line, and have no adrian peterson... Bridgewater gets rid of the ball on average as quick as Aaron Rodgers according to ESPN stats and info

In a redraft, do you take Teddy over Bortles? Time to test your sanity.

Quote:Agreed, if Teddy took the beating Bortles has this year he would probably still be in the ER

 

Correct.

 

Bridgewater has done more with more this season. He's played well, but not like a difference maker.

 

Bortles has actually brought the Jaguars reasonably close to competitive with an offense in disarray around him and an offensive coordinator out of his depth.

I think its close between Carr, Bortles, and Bridgewater.  No one guy clearly separates himself as the better player yet.

Quote:In a redraft, do you take Teddy over Bortles? Time to test your sanity.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

 

and like my SN says Bortles is my guy

Quote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

 

and like my SN says Bortles is my guy

Mark Sanchez is over Cam, Kap, and Stafford.  So he has to be the better QB

Maclin has better stats this year than Megatron and Dez this year also.  He has to be better too right?

Quote:Mark Sanchez is over Cam, Kap, and Stafford.  So he has to be the better QB

 

Not to even mention it's already been pointed out why QBR is about the worst stat that exists.

 

Citing it is a way to instantaneously declare yourself unfit for the discussion.

Quote:Good luck making that argument here. Our pass protection is historically bad and our receivers get little separation.

Historically bad?

 

Whose history?

Quote:Historically bad?

 

Whose history?

 

For the Jaguars it certainly is.

Quote:Historically bad?

 

Whose history?

The NFLs.

Surely none of this surprises us ?? Before the draft took place every expert was telling us that Bridgewater was the most "pro ready" ie, he would adapt to the NFL quicker than the others. And that is what has happened. The Vikings OLine isn't perfect and will probably be strengthened in the off-season, but it is better (and more experienced) than ours.


Bortles was always known to be a project and when we picked him the idea was not to start him this season. We all knew he wouldn't get results as quickly. And that was always going to be partly down to our thrown-together OLine.


The only surprise is that Carr got his chance so quickly and has done fairly well in an awful team. (And I'm really pleased he has)

Quote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

 

and like my SN says Bortles is my guy

I'd consider that a fairly accurate portrayal of how they should rank.