Quote:I don't see your above examples as a good example to what you said either. Maybe you just aren't very good at relating things??? :thumbsup:
So talking about all the if's and buts of every other subject on this board is okay, but not in pertaining to this case? I didn't realize that would be to hard for you to follow. A big word like "conjecture" threw it for you, didn't it? :whistling:
Quote:You said I hope this doesn't happen to someone you know. We don't know what happened. So are you saying I hope someone you know doesn't get raped? I hope someone you know doesn't falsely accuse someone of rape?
No, I'm saying I hope nobody anyone knows accuses anyone of rape, but if a relative or someone close to you accused a guy of rape, do you think you would feel the same way as you do about the girl that accused Jameis?
Quote:No, I'm saying I hope nobody anyone knows accuses anyone of rape, but if a relative or someone close to you accused a guy of rape, do you think you would feel the same way as you do about the girl that accused Jameis?
Lets say a close friend of my wifes accuses a guy of raping her. She is obviously an emotional wreck and her statement from the first day changes because the way things happened that night become clearer in time. Am I going to call her a liar because of that?
I'm just a feminist for not blindly believing Jameis is innocent that according to one of your comrades.
He won't understand your example because it doesn't directly relate to this case....
Quote:No, I'm saying I hope nobody anyone knows accuses anyone of rape, but if a relative or someone close to you accused a guy of rape, do you think you would feel the same way as you do about the girl that accused Jameis?
don't you know? FSU football comes first. Family is somewhere lower on that list.
Quote:You said I hope this doesn't happen to someone you know. We don't know what happened. So are you saying I hope someone you know doesn't get raped? I hope someone you know doesn't falsely accuse someone of rape?
You seem to be very easily confused...
Quote:He won't understand your example because it doesn't directly relate to this case....
I deleted the example because I didnt want to be accused of hoping that someone gets raped.
I'm a feminist, why would I want that? Can men be feminists?
Quote:I deleted the example because I didnt want to be accused of hoping that someone gets raped.
I'm a feminist, why would I want that? Can men be feminists?
yes. they're also commonly known as internet social justice warriors and they're extremely annoying.
Quote:So talking about all the if's and buts of every other subject on this board is okay, but not in pertaining to this case? I didn't realize that would be to hard for you to follow. A big word like "conjecture" threw it for you, didn't it? :whistling:
Ya got me with yo big werds. This topic seems to bring the best out in people.
Quote:No, I'm saying I hope nobody anyone knows accuses anyone of rape, but if a relative or someone close to you accused a guy of rape, do you think you would feel the same way as you do about the girl that accused Jameis?
No, but again, that doesn't really mean anything. If you are too close to something then you probably won't look at things clearly.
Quote:No, but again, that doesn't really mean anything. If you are too close to something then you probably won't look at things clearly.
I could say the same thing about supporting your Heisman Trophy winning quarterback for your National Championship football team.
Quote:I could say the same thing about supporting your Heisman Trophy winning quarterback for your National Championship football team.
Absolutely you could. Same thing goes for gator fans. I'm sure I have a bias. We all do depending on our back ground, experiences, etc...
Quote:Absolutely you could. Same thing goes for gator fans. I'm sure I have a bias. We all do depending on our back ground, experiences, etc...
We're not talking just Gator fans here. What I think non Nole fans here are giving (for the most part...there have been extremes) is the national perspective on Jameis.
It's 100% the reason people are now rooting against FSU. There's a perception that Jimbo has lost control a bit and their quarterback is allowed to do whatever he wants with no consequences.
Quote:We're not talking just Gator fans here. What I think non Nole fans here are giving (for the most part...there have been extremes) is the national perspective on Jameis.
It's 100% the reason people are now rooting against FSU. There's a perception that Jimbo has lost control a bit and their quarterback is allowed to do whatever he wants with no consequences.
I know we aren't talking about just gator fans. I'm just saying gator fans are going to probably side with the woman. That is natural.
I honestly don't care if people are rooting against FSU. In fact, it makes it more fun when we win. I don't believe Jimbo has lost control. In fact, I'm amazed at what they are doing considering everything that is going on. If anything they are overcoming a difficult time. Jameis did get an entire game suspension against Clemson so lets at least throw that in there when we say no consequences. That was a pretty big game. Anyways, as of now, he hasn't been charged with rape. He stole $30 or so worth of crab legs, yelled obscene words on campus, stole $1 fountain drink and got in a BB gun fight. The crab legs was certainly beyond being a stupid college kid. The other things, not so much, but Jameis has the spot light on him so things are magnified. The rape allegations are really the thing that matters. If he did it he is a terrible human being. If he didn't then I would say some of the things he did are a little over blown. Just my 2 cents.
Quote:Hahahahahahahahahahaha. You blindly defend him.
I hope this never happens to someone personal to you and they are the ones making this sort of accusation. Your story and feelings would quickly change.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth, you say you dont know what happened and then say he did it and shame on people for defending him...all that is being said is that both sides have strong arguments and neither can significantly prove their side....he said she said. If new evidence is presented then it's worth debating but nothing new here.
Quote:You talk out of both sides of your mouth, you say you dont know what happened and then say he did it and shame on people for defending him...all that is being said is that both sides have strong arguments and neither can significantly prove their side....he said she said. If new evidence is presented then it's worth debating but nothing new here.
Can you please provide the post where I said he did it?
You want to know who said both side have an arguement? JT and I...not you.
Quote:Can you please provide the post where I said he did it?
You want to know who said both side have an arguement? JT and I...not you.
Lol you sound mad bro. Its clear you are defending the girl and feel Winston did it....thats ok you're entitled to your opinion. Seems like I just said both sides have an argument with previous post...but I digress. Once again there is nothing new here to discuss.
Quote:Lol you sound mad bro. Its clear you are defending the girl and feel Winston did it....thats ok you're entitled to your opinion. Seems like I just said both sides have an argument with previous post...but I digress. Once again there is nothing new here to discuss.
So simple minded.
It's fun to go back and forth with people that speak logically here ( jtmoney ) and have a good back and forth. You make stuff up (please provide the post where I said he did it) and have no clue most of the time. I'm defending the fact that people like you 100% back Jameis like nothing happened. Should I pull the many many posts in this thread alone that you've made?
I'm just mad bro.
Quote:Ya got me with yo big werds. This topic seems to bring the best out in people.
What were you telling Trav yesterday about lightening up just a scoatch...? :whistling:
Quote:What were you telling Trav yesterday about lightening up just a scoatch...? :whistling:
Scoatch level is a bit high.