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This is the best post I've ever seen on this board. Thanks for making me bust out in laughter in the airport

Quote:This is the best post I've ever seen on this board. Thanks for making me bust out in laughter in the airport

Probably the same thing that Anger did when he was picked!

where are all the Pasztor guys from earlier in the year?

 

they are eerily silent

Pasztor is okay. Bodies people in the run game but really is a below average pass protector. He's decent when facing mid tier competition but will probably be beaten like a drum against guys like Wake. Certainly upgradable, but wouldn't put it as a massive priority. Positions like RT should be addressed later in the draft and through free agency.

I think Paztor still has potential.

 

What he needs is some genuine competition at RT. That way he either elevates his game or gets relegated to back up.

 

It would be nice if they could find a young FA hungry for a starting job to compete with Paztor.

Quote:Probably the same thing that Anger did when he was picked!

Same thing gene smith did. He trolled us with that pick... and every other pick he made during his tenure.

Quote:I think Paztor still has potential.

 

What he needs is some genuine competition at RT. That way he either elevates his game or gets relegated to back up.

 

It would be nice if they could find a young FA hungry for a starting job to compete with Paztor.

Eh.  I don't really agree to be honest.  He should have that motivation regardless of who is behind him.

Quote:where are all the Pasztor guys from earlier in the year?

 

they are eerily silent

 

Were there really that many Pasztor fans? I like him because he was an UDFA who made good, and also a Canadian, but he should definitely face competition next year. If he loses, I'd still favour keeping him as a backup RT/G.

 

As fans, we often make it seem like every player who struggles is the worst to ever suit up. Maybe that player isn't a good full-time starter, but they still have value on a 53 man roster.

What would people say if we pick at number 2 again and once again take a tackle for the right side of the line.. Someone like Cedric Ogbuehi who can play left tackle, right tackle and right guard.


It would be a good insurance policy for Blake, but man would people be upset.

Quote:Eh. I don't really agree to be honest. He should have that motivation regardless of who is behind him.

Some guys are internally motivated. Some require external motivation. Depends on the personality.

Hopefully Ereck Flowers comes back from his injury.  He would be perfect on the right side next to Linder and he already knows the system and is Linders buddy.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/playe...ck-flowers

Draft a physical left tackle coming out of college and let him compete with Pasztor for RT Position next year. 

Quote:Some guys are internally motivated. Some require external motivation. Depends on the personality.

I would think a fat paycheck and recognition would be enough external motivation.

Quote:I would think a fat paycheck and recognition would be enough external motivation.

That alone just leads to complacency and a sense of entitlement.

 

Someone trying to take that fat check and recognition leads to motivation.

 

Basic human nature.

Quote:What would people say if we pick at number 2 again and once again take a tackle for the right side of the line.. Someone like Cedric Ogbuehi who can play left tackle, right tackle and right guard.


It would be a good insurance policy for Blake, but man would people be upset.

I wouldn't be. We need to protect our young, raw, developing qb. The more time he has, the more it opens up the offense. We do need a TE on offense as his safety option, but we won't pick one in the first round anyways. If we took Jameis Winston, then I'd be pissed.

It would be one thing if Anger was averaging 65 yards and pinning guys inside the 5 on a regular basis, but the guy sucks. I watch random games throughout the week and find myself saying "Wish we had that guy".

Quote:That alone just leads to complacency and a sense of entitlement.

 

Someone trying to take that fat check and recognition leads to motivation.

 

Basic human nature.

Maybe I didn't communicate that correctly.  If he does well and performs, he will get paid more.  Dangling a much larger contract in front of him is not leading to complacency.  There are plenty of other players that have zero competition that have performed at an elite level, even after a fat contract.

Quote:Were there really that many Pasztor fans? I like him because he was an UDFA who made good, and also a Canadian, but he should definitely face competition next year. If he loses, I'd still favour keeping him as a backup RT/G.

 

As fans, we often make it seem like every player who struggles is the worst to ever suit up. Maybe that player isn't a good full-time starter, but they still have value on a 53 man roster.

Exactly.  Just a delusional attempt to stir the pot.  Folks (myself included) were happy to have one less immediate need to fill in the offseason. No one touted the guy as a future all-pro. 

 

I wouldn't be shocked if they essentially put it off another year by just adding a mid tier FA to compete/ add depth. He was somewhere "slightly above solid" most of the time before breaking his hand. They may trust him to return to form after an offseason to heal. 

 

But as I said before, they'll seek an upgrade eventually.  I don't see it being high on the priority list though.

Quote:Maybe I didn't communicate that correctly.  If he does well and performs, he will get paid more.  Dangling a much larger contract in front of him is not leading to complacency.  There are plenty of other players that have zero competition that have performed at an elite level, even after a fat contract.

Most people respond better to adversity than reward. It's just the way we are wired. That's why coaches love people to compete for roster spots and depth chart position. It tends to bring out peoples A game better than just throwing around money.

Quote:What's funny is that a lot of people defended the pick.

 

It seems like I am the only one who did.