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Quote:But all 3 of these guys are confirmed to be bad qbs, i dont see what you gain from this at all besides another top 10 pick.

 

No to all 4 of them!!

Quote:Adam Schefter said last week that Glennon is going to get between $15-17 million per season from some team. That seems way too risky for a guy I don't see as a starter.

 

Yeah hell to the no on that garbage.

Quote:Yet your ok with having Chip Kelly as a head coach even though he's proven twice he's awful at it.

He proved he was an awful GM in philly not an awful coach, and the 49ers dont have an ounce of talent so im not sure what your basis is for that one either. Either way my thoughts on chip kelly have nothing to do with the topic at hand so lets stay on topic shall we.

Quote:It'll take a lot more than that. It's being reported on the radio here in the Cincinnati area that the Bengals were offered a 2nd and a 4th round pick last year and turned it down. They said if they were offered that same deal today, they'd take it, but they probably would not go lower than that.

He has a year left on his deal, wont ever start barring injury, and is probably going to have a new coach so that value means pretty much nothing to me.

Quote:He's definitely available and seems to believe his trade is inevitable. Id do it for a 2nd or 3rd. He played ok in his limited time as the bengals starter when dalton was injured.


Blake is pretty bad, so if were going to go into this season with a young "unproven" QB im taking AJs limited time over Blakes 3 seasons of mediocrity.

Good God, you're a terrible GM

Quote:He proved he was an awful GM in philly not an awful coach, and the 49ers dont have an ounce of talent so im not sure what your basis is for that one either. Either way my thoughts on chip kelly have nothing to do with the topic at hand so lets stay on topic shall we.

Your right it had to do with the comment you made which is why replyed to it and not your original post.


McCarron is overrated and players like him are a dime a dozen. Bortles would handedly beat him out and we would be out a draft pick.


He threw over 250 yards once and 200 or below in the rest, and was awful in the playoff game he was in. He's a younger Henne at best.

Quote:Your right it had to do with the comment you made which is why replyed to it and not your original post.


McCarron is overrated and players like him are a dime a dozen. Bortles would handedly beat him out and we would be out a draft pick.


He threw over 250 yards once and 200 or below in the rest, and was awful in the playoff game he was in. He's a younger Henne at best.

McCarron will be nothing more than the typical game manager who will need a very strong Defense and Running game to win.

 

All you hope for is that he'll convert a couple much needed 3rd downs at crucial times during a game. As well as hoping that he doesn't ever turn the ball over because he isn't going to win you any games with his arm.

 

You don't trade for those kind of QBs, unless it's for a 4th round pick or later. A 4th round pick would be the absolute highest I'd give for him imo.

 

He's the type of QB you sign in FA to be a solid back up and hope for the best if he gets thrown into the starting role.

Quote:Your right it had to do with the comment you made which is why replyed to it and not your original post.


McCarron is overrated and players like him are a dime a dozen. Bortles would handedly beat him out and we would be out a draft pick.


He threw over 250 yards once and 200 or below in the rest, and was awful in the playoff game he was in. He's a younger Henne at best.

He doesnt play similar to Henne in any way. Using pure yards without any context to paint him as a game manager is some of the laziest evaluation ive seen and being bad in your 5th career game which also happens to be in the playoffs isnt really something id use as a deciding factor to see if hell ever be good or not. But go ahead my man do your thing.

AJ has made it clear that he wants out but I don't think Cinci trades him for anything worse than they could potentially get as a compensatory draft pick (whatever that may be).

Quote:I'd rather spend a 2nd or 3rd on Patrick Mahomes than use one of those picks on AJ McCarron.

Quote:He doesnt play similar to Henne in any way. Using pure yards without any context to paint him as a game manager is some of the laziest evaluation ive seen and being bad in your 5th career game which also happens to be in the playoffs isnt really something id use as a deciding factor to see if hell ever be good or not. But go ahead my man do your thing.

I did more then use just yards in my analysis of him I used my eyes, hes the very definition of game manger at best.


As soon as a team forced him to throw to win he folded like a wet paper bag.


What has he done to make you think he could beat out Bortles what skills does he have that you couldn't find in free agency.

Quote:Fun to watch him run around and make plays in college but 18 picks in 12 games?  Someone will pick him in the first but I wouldn't even pick him in the 2nd.  We need OL and RB in the top half of this draft.

I'm hoping most teams share your opinion, and it drives his stock down. I think your concerns are valid...Watson had a much better season in 2015. However, Jameis Winston followed a similar path in his last season at FSU, and he turned out okay. If Watson makes it to us in the second round, I would be tempted to pull the trigger. We obviously need guards, but I think you can get good get a good guard in the the third round.

Quote:I did more then use just yards in my analysis of him I used my eyes, hes the very definition of game manger at best.


As soon as a team forced him to throw to win he folded like a wet paper bag.


What has he done to make you think he could beat out Bortles what skills does he have that you couldn't find in free agency.

"as soon as a team forces him to throw to win he folded like a wet paper bag"


Like when AJ threw the go ahead touchdown with 1:50 left on the clock to take the lead in the playoff game? is that the paper bag incident speak of? I thought you used your eyes for this?

Quote:"as soon as a team forces him to throw to win he folded like a wet paper bag"


Like when AJ threw the go ahead touchdown with 1:50 left on the clock to take the lead in the playoff game? is that the paper bag incident speak of? I thought you used your eyes for this?

Your right he had one good drive in an otherwise bad performance that totally makes him worth losing picks for. Let's forget the defense and running game that gave him that opportunity.


I'll say it again since you ignored it.

What has he done to make you think he could beat out Bortles, what skills does he have that you couldn't find in free agency.

Quote:"as soon as a team forces him to throw to win he folded like a wet paper bag"


Like when AJ threw the go ahead touchdown with 1:50 left on the clock to take the lead in the playoff game? is that the paper bag incident speak of? I thought you used your eyes for this?

They started that drive at the Pit 45 yard line. He dinked and dunked a couple of short passes, scrambled for a couple yards and hit AJ Green for a 25 yard TD pass.

 

Don't act like he drove them down the field on that drive to take the lead. There's plenty of QBs who can throw up a 50/50 ball for Green.

Quote:"as soon as a team forces him to throw to win he folded like a wet paper bag"


Like when AJ threw the go ahead touchdown with 1:50 left on the clock to take the lead in the playoff game? is that the paper bag incident speak of? I thought you used your eyes for this?

I just need to ask this because it's been bugging me for a while now: is your username about shooting Bortles?

Quote:They started that drive at the Pit 45 yard line. He dinked and dunked a couple of short passes, scrambled for a couple yards and hit AJ Green for a 25 yard TD pass.


Don't act like he drove them down the field on that drive to take the lead. There's plenty of QBs who can throw up a 50/50 ball for Green.

I didnt say the drive was especially impressive at all. But guy over here said he watched AJ fold when asked to win a game, but theres evidence that clearly states otherwise.

Quote:I didnt say the drive was especially impressive at all. But guy over here said he watched AJ fold when asked to win a game, but theres evidence that clearly states otherwise.

One good drive isn't evidence a player is good or could lead a team. Bortles has just as many game winning drives yet you think he's garbage.

Quote:Your right he had one good drive in an otherwise bad performance that totally makes him worth losing picks for. Let's forget the defense and running game that gave him that opportunity.


I'll say it again since you ignored it.

What has he done to make you think he could beat out Bortles, what skills does he have that you couldn't find in free agency.

I didnt say that one drive made him worth it. The running game didnt carry him either lol, they had 78 yards total rushing and the game ended on a jeremy hill fumble.


Hes played well in a limited amount of starts, idk anyone in FA that qualifies with that aside from Tyrod and Kirk. Everyone else either has no starts or has shown enough that we can safely assume theyre not very good quarterbacks.

Does anyone really believe Caldwell when he said the new HC doesnt have to start Blake lol, yea okkkkk dave.