We may as well make it 7 days.
Not that the NFL cares what I do, but I wont watch 4 days worth of this... especially if the last day is rounds 5+
Bringing the draft back a few weeks sounds sensible to me. And moving it to another city really doesn't bother me (let's face it, unless they decide to hold the draft outdoors, the inside of one large venue is pretty much the same as any other)
I'm not even worried about the draft stretching into four days. Does anyone really stick around for the last couple of rounds anyway ?
Seems to me that Goodell gets stick whatever he does. But as someone else pointed our, that's something people at the top have to get used to.
I couldn't care less about a venue/ city change. Actually it would be nice if it changed to Chicago (direct flights from almost anywhere in the country) or Atlanta (drivable for humble jags fans).
No way I would tune into a 4 day event though.
4 days is a bit ridiculous. 1st round Wed, 2nd round Thurs, 3rd and 4th Friday and 5th,6th and 7th on Sat. ugh.........talk about dragging it out.
Quote:I think its funny everyone hates on goodell so much. you guys do know he is just the face of the nfl. his job is to take the boo's and all the hate. so the owners can look like the good guys while they really run the nfl at their numerous closed door meetings. sorta like mafia capo's with a figurehead don who gets the heat. does anyone really think goodell does anything the owners haven't approved? publicly or not.
You mean he's not the one booking the venues for the draft?
There are some folks here who need a single target to blame for anything they don't like. It couldn't possibly be anyone but the commissioner to blame for things like this, right?
I really can't see them moving the First Round off of the Thursday night spot. If I remember right, that's the night with the highest ratings, so they'll want to get as many eyes on their biggest night.
They may push into Sunday, or maybe have some kind of Pre-show the night before - although I don't even think I would watch that - but I really don't see the First Round moving from Thursday.
Quote:I really can't see them moving the First Round off of the Thursday night spot. If I remember right, that's the night with the highest ratings, so they'll want to get as many eyes on their biggest night.
They may push into Sunday, or maybe have some kind of Pre-show the night before - although I don't even think I would watch that - but I really don't see the First Round moving from Thursday.
I think that's probably the plan (expanding to Sunday), and I don't know why anyone would be upset about this.
As is the case with everything else the league does, it's about the money. If they can stretch it out and make more money off of the draft, they're going to do it.
If they move the venue, again, so what?
Quote:I think that's probably the plan (expanding to Sunday), and I don't know why anyone would be upset about this.
As is the case with everything else the league does, it's about the money. If they can stretch it out and make more money off of the draft, they're going to do it.
If they move the venue, again, so what?
There's a scene from an early Family Guy episode that keeps running through my mind. It's the one where Stewie notices that the roof is missing from the house and he proclaims in a rather shrill voice "I don't like change!"
Quote:4 days is a bit ridiculous. 1st round Wed, 2nd round Thurs, 3rd and 4th Friday and 5th,6th and 7th on Sat. ugh.........talk about dragging it out.
Just wait until each ROUND is held in a different city...
Quote:There's a scene from an early Family Guy episode that keeps running through my mind. It's the one where Stewie notices that the roof is missing from the house and he proclaims in a rather shrill voice "I don't like change!"
sigh, its not about disliking change. Its about disliking
bad change. Akin to disliking the proposed adding 2 more playoff teams, when you already have a perfect symmetry right now. I know I wasn't against adding the 2 NFL teams that brought the total to "32"....and
thats change too.
You're making an analogy above that lacks validity.
Though I do want to say that was a stupid thread headline by me. Sometimes I post without using my brain. Maybe too much. There was a better way to phrase my feelings on the subject than that crappy way I did.
Quote:Pretty soon he will have cities bidding to see who gets the rights to host the draft. The league is hoping for it to become similar to the super-bowl, only expanded over a weekend.
This
Quote:Though I do want to say that was a stupid thread headline by me. Sometimes I post without using my brain. Maybe too much. There was a better way to phrase my feelings on the subject than that crappy way I did.
Your entire charade against Goodell is done without using your brain. He does NOTHING except what the owners agree should be done. This has been explained in every Goodell hate thread, but it always seems to slip past your little hamster on the wheel. I bet if you let him pick up some momentum you could understand it.
Quote:Your entire charade against Goodell is done without using your brain. He does NOTHING except what the owners agree should be done. This has been explained in every Goodell hate thread, but it always seems to slip past your little hamster on the wheel. I bet if you let him pick up some momentum you could understand it.
While I agree that the final product is him being a mouthpiece for the consensus of the other 32 owners, we do not know to what extent that he has (or hasn't) been in spearheading these "new ideas". Under Tags (Tagliabue) were didn't seem to have as much short-sighted change or change for change's sake and shameless money grabs like some of these "new" ideas are guises for. I think some of that is the new guard of owner like Synder, Jones, Irsays kid, etc etc, but I do think some of it indeed stems from Goodell. I don't think he's just 100% a string puppet. We've lost a lot of the old Guard's "League-think". Pete Rozelle was part of that too.
And he'll just keep the NFL rolling in the bucks despite how we feel.
Quote:While I agree that the final product is him being a mouthpiece for the consensus of the other 32 owners, we do not know to what extent that he has (or hasn't) been in spearheading these "new ideas". Under Tags (Tagliabue) were didn't seem to have as much short-sighted change or change for change's sake and shameless money grabs like some of these "new" ideas are guises for. I think some of that is the new guard of owner like Synder, Jones, Irsays kid, etc etc, but I do think some of it indeed stems from Goodell. I don't think he's just 100% a string puppet. We've lost a lot of the old Guard's "League-think". Pete Rozelle was part of that too.
I seriously doubt Goodell is sitting there booking RCMH or coming up with changing draft dates. He's being fed this stuff by people from the network, and from other areas within the league who are suggesting these things as a way of increasing ratings and profits.
I don't think any of it has been shortsighted. Moving the draft to May increased ratings dramatically over previous years. Increased ratings means more money for the league. That's not shortsighted.
Goodell is nothing more than the face the owners put out there to manage their interests.
Quote:There's a scene from an early Family Guy episode that keeps running through my mind. It's the one where Stewie notices that the roof is missing from the house and he proclaims in a rather shrill voice "I don't like change!"
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Quote:I seriously doubt Goodell is sitting there booking RCMH or coming up with changing draft dates. He's being fed this stuff by people from the network, and from other areas within the league who are suggesting these things as a way of increasing ratings and profits.
I don't think any of it has been shortsighted. Moving the draft to May increased ratings dramatically over previous years. Increased ratings means more money for the league. That's not shortsighted.
Goodell is nothing more than the face the owners put out there to manage their interests.
I think the push for 2 more playoff teams, an 18 game schedule, and an NFL team in London on a full-time basis, ...amongst others, are all ideas that will perhaps bring short term money but long term be detrimental to the league/ product.
Four days of the draft is just dragging it out longer than necessary. By day 3 most people lose interest. Usually on the third day, I know I'm doing other things, and checking the message boards to see the draft picks after they've come in.
It doesn't really matter where they host it. I'd think they'd want to host it somewhere, though, that is both an NFL city and a good tourist spot (for draft prospects and their families). I mean a big thing is getting the draft prospects there, right? I don't think it'll be in London ever for that reason. Travel would be difficult for draft prospects, especially ones that are fringe-1st rounders.
I think they could turn it into more of an event, and make more money, without extending the days for the draft.