Quote:I still expect a 6 win season. Nothing will change that expectation. I think it's still too young of a team to expect more.
Thats close to my line of thinking too.
I think the sky's the limit after that (2015 and beyond....), but I think we still are going to have a year in 2014 where we are still in the process of learning how to win/ gel at different positions on the team such as OL, etc etc.
I feel a whole lot better going into this season than recent ones.
I think six wins is completely feasible, and if they manage to find a little luck, that could be 7 or 8 wins which would be pure gravy. This team is a year away from really starting to feel the impact of the entire rebuild, although we will see improvements this year.
Quote:I feel a whole lot better going into this season than recent ones.
Agreed. There's definitely a different vibe around this team. You can really feel that the arrow is pointed in the right direction.
I will not be measuring the Jaguars' success by their record alone. Sure, is it an indicator? Yes, but not the only indicator that I will be using.
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Quote:Agreed. There's definitely a different vibe around this team. You can really feel that the arrow is pointed in the right direction.
And that's all you really want to see. Gene had the arrow pointing down for the last 5 years. It was hard not to change the direction, but I think the new regime is doing it the right way by sticking to their plan. Communication with our four heads (Khan, Lamping, Caldwell, Bradley) is the best this franchise has ever seen. Jaguars fans are intelligent enough to notice when it is legitimate.
Quote:I will not be measuring the Jaguars' success by their record alone. Sure, is it an indicator? Yes, but not the only indicator that I will be using.
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I definitely expect the defense to improve leaps and bounds. A lot of Veterans on that side of the ball, with improving depth. I'll be disappointed if our defense isn't top 15 overall.
At the middle of last year I thought this was the worst team in NFL history. How we won 4 games in the second half was unbelievable.
So no telling this year.
Quote:And that's all you really want to see. Gene had the arrow pointing down for the last 5 years. It was hard not to change the direction, but I think the new regime is doing it the right way by sticking to their plan. Communication with our four heads (Khan, Lamping, Caldwell, Bradley) is the best this franchise has ever seen. Jaguars fans are intelligent enough to notice when it is legitimate.
Gene put the pedal to the metal and buried that arrow as deeply in the muck as he could. When Caldwell & Co. came in and blew it all up, there were skeptics who argued we should do it in smaller pieces. In the long run, if Dave's method works, the turnaround will be much faster, and it should be sustainable. That's all I care about.
Quote:I definitely expect the defense to improve leaps and bounds. A lot of Veterans on that side of the ball, with improving depth. I'll be disappointed if our defense isn't top 15 overall.
Both sides of the ball should show significant improvement as the season progresses. As long as we keep guys healthy and on the field, we're going to get a good sense for where this team is headed in the next few years.
Quote:At the middle of last year I thought this was the worst team in NFL history. How we won 4 games in the second half was unbelievable.
So no telling this year.
There was a point last year where it sure felt like that was the case. Then the bye week came, and somehow Gus took a pretty untalented team and managed to cobble together 4 wins in the 2nd half of the season. That was a minor miracle in itself. We'll see what tricks he's got up his sleeve this year.
Reality check, Stephen Morris is looking good in OTA's
Quote:Reality check, Stephen Morris is looking good in OTA's
Another reality check: Morris is a practice squader at best.
Quote:Reality check, Stephen Morris is looking good in OTA's
Morris is looking "good" in OTAs?
The handful of reps he got during the practice yesterday were pretty pedestrian.
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Let's look at the schedule for this season;
At Eagles (L?) .500 team over the last five years
At Redskins (W?) sub 500 team over the last five years
Colts (L) - plus 500 team over the last five years
At Chargers (L?) - sub 500 team over the last five years
Steelers (L) - 500 team over the last five years
At Titans (W) - sub 500 team over the last five years
Browns (W) - sub 500 team over the last five years
Dolphins (W) - sub 500 team over the last five years
At Bengals (W)- 500 team over the last five years
Cowboys (W) - sub 500 team over the last five years
Bye
At Colts (W) plus 500 team over the last five years
Giants (L) - 500 team over the last five years
Texans (W) - 500 team over the last five years
At Ravens (L) - 500 team over the last five years
Titans (W) sub 500 team over the last five years
Texans (W) 500 team over the last five years
In the above scenario the team would go 10-6, but I expect things could happen...
The way I look at it, you've got six games against sub 500 teams (over the last five years) on your schedule. At the very least, you should expect to win every one of them. Then you've got two games against the Texans... the thing that made them a .500 team is gone. Kubiak & Schaub. Yes they've got talent over there, they had talent last season as well & won 2 games, swept by the Jags. Baltimore and Pittsburgh have actually been better teams over the last five years, but they could very well be on a downhill slide. A win against the Jags would help them maintain at the .500 level, a loss could kick them over the edge.
Miami & Cincinnati have actually been better at winning games than Baltimore & Pittsburgh lately, they'll probably maintain that .500 status more so than Pittsburgh & Baltimore. So it's just my opinion, but there's no reason you couldn't beat Cincy, Pittsburgh, & Baltimore (in addition to Miami which is already in the sub .500 list). So that's 9 winnable games.
Cowboys... Giants... they've gotten into the habit of beating themselves lately. Just stay out of their way. That's 13 games (counting the two against Houston) that you can win & still not be a very good team. Eight wins just means that you were better than eight of
those bad teams on that particular day. Doesn't make you a "good" team.
Big picture wise, yes... we want our team to be a good team, but for the upcoming season, let's just try to be better than a bunch of bad teams... the more the better.
This is year two for Gus Bradley. As bad as the Jags are, I'd expect 10 to 13 wins.
If you lose to Baltimore & Pittsburgh, no big deal as long as they go on to beat Indy & Houston & Tennessee. If Houston & Tennessee beats Baltimore/Pittsburgh... well, you're going the wrong way.
Quote:The way I look at it, you've got six games against sub 500 teams (over the last five years) on your schedule. At the very least, you should expect to win every one of them.
That line should be posted on the Seahawks message board, but not here.
Man, I read that, I almost spat my coffee on my keyboard. "We should expect to win every one of them"? "At the very least"?
Do you realize, we are probably not favored in a single game this year?
Quote:What is their doing?
Hopefully keeping these guys on the field. I'm not sold on Myslinksi and this will be his 3rd year I believe since coming in with Mularkey.
"The way I look at it, you've got six games against sub 500 teams (over the last five years) on your schedule. At the very least, you should expect to win every one of them...."
Well yeah, ok. I can understand the fans 'hoping' to win every one of them. But I think expecting to win every one of them is delusional.
Considering that...
1. we have a largely (not totally) inexperienced/mediocre offensive line
2. a starting veteran quarterback who is regarded as, at best, a mediocre NFL quarterback,
3. two highly regarded rookies (but nevertheless rookies) along with a couple of 'fair' veteran wide receivers; and all of them are currently injured.
I realize that many think that it's a tough defense that wins games; and maybe they are right. Given the FA acquisitions we now have our defense really should be much improved. I see no reason for us to be getting blown out early on in games like what has happened too often in recent years. However, most of the points put on the board are put there by the offense, not the defense; and at least for this season, our offense still looks pretty questionable. So questionable in fact, that 'Vegas has us finishing at dead last.
This isn't to say that there isn't room for optimism though!
First off, the 'Vegas prediction is based on what they think people who are wagering will do, not on what they themselves think of the team. No one is going to think highly of the Jag's (outside of our existing fan base that is...) until we start winning. We are still digging out of the deep, deep, hole that we were put in by the previous owner/GM/head coach. Nevertheless, the teams 'arrow' is indeed pointing up for the first time in a long time because the new owner/general manager/head coach are doing the right things! Although the 'general' pro football fan base still doesn't think much of the Jag's, some pro sports writers are taking notice of what's going on here and they too see our teams arrow pointing up. We should have a better finishing record and over-all better stats (especially on defense) this season than last year. Admittedly, that isn't setting the 'bar' too high.
The way I see it, next year (2015) should be the season that we can start talking about an 8-8 or better season and maybe playoff's. It could happen this year too, but it would require a larger than average slice of luck.
Quote:"The way I look at it, you've got six games against sub 500 teams (over the last five years) on your schedule. At the very least, you should expect to win every one of them...."
Well yeah, ok. I can understand the fans 'hoping' to win every one of them. But I think expecting to win every one of them is delusional.
Considering that...
1. we have a largely (not totally) inexperienced/mediocre offensive line
2. a starting veteran quarterback who is regarded as, at best, a mediocre NFL quarterback,
3. two highly regarded rookies (but nevertheless rookies) along with a couple of 'fair' veteran wide receivers; and all of them are currently injured.
I realize that many think that it's a tough defense that wins games; and maybe they are right. Given the FA acquisitions we now have our defense really should be much improved. I see no reason for us to be getting blown out early on in games like what has happened too often in recent years. However, most of the points put on the board are put there by the offense, not the defense; and at least for this season, our offense still looks pretty questionable. So questionable in fact, that 'Vegas has us finishing at dead last.
This isn't to say that there isn't room for optimism though!
First off, the 'Vegas prediction is based on what they think people who are wagering will do, not on what they themselves think of the team. No one is going to think highly of the Jag's (outside of our existing fan base that is...) until we start winning. We are still digging out of the deep, deep, hole that we were put in by the previous owner/GM/head coach. Nevertheless, the teams 'arrow' is indeed pointing up for the first time in a long time because the new owner/general manager/head coach are doing the right things! Although the 'general' pro football fan base still doesn't think much of the Jag's, some pro sports writers are taking notice of what's going on here and they too see our teams arrow pointing up. We should have a better finishing record and over-all better stats (especially on defense) this season than last year. Admittedly, that isn't setting the 'bar' too high.
The way I see it, next year (2015) should be the season that we can start talking about an 8-8 or better season and maybe playoff's. It could happen this year too, but it would require a larger than average slice of luck.
You're right. I'm not sure why anyone would consider games against other lower half of the NFL teams gimmes for this roster.
Had he said there was a 50% chance of winning those games I'd be inclined to agree, which is why I see this as a team that will likely win 5 or so games. Split with the other bad teams and win a couple near the end of the season against decent teams. (probably with Bortles starting)
Quote:You're right. I'm not sure why anyone would consider games against other lower half of the NFL teams gimmes for this roster.
Had he said there was a 50% chance of winning those games I'd be inclined to agree, which is why I see this as a team that will likely win 5 or so games. Split with the other bad teams and win a couple near the end of the season against decent teams. (probably with Bortles starting)
No game is a gimme in the NFL.
Quote:No game is a gimme in the NFL.
Well, Most were for the opponents vs the Jags in JDR's final 11, and Mularkey's season.
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But usually the above point stands.