Quote:Actually there is a benefit to cutting him right now. If the Jaguars cut him right now it would pretty much guarantee his career ends and he never goes on to be another team's Chris Carter.
If he's cut now any team signing him would have to put up with him serving the rest of his suspension on their inactive roster before they even got a shot to work with him.
The above is stupid. Cutting him now would in NO way guarantee his career ends, nor would it guarantee he doesn't become a Cris Carter type somewhere else.
As the smart people have started, the Jags should simply hold onto his rights as long as theres a chance he can play again. Don't let another team get him for nothing.
Quote:I have been reading more and more people talk about how Blackmon is an elite talent, how he may be better than Julio Jones or AJ Green, how he has the ability to be a top 5 WR in the NFL, etc etc.
Is that really the case?
Let's look at it objectively: I will look at which games he got more 70 yards (which would put him over 1000 yards for the year for instance) as his "good games"
14 for 236
7 for 79
7 for 79
6 for 93
in year 1
9 for 136
14 for 190
in year 2..
So a total of 6 good games (the case could be made for 3 really good games and pretty good games) in 20 appearances.
Lets look at his "bad games".... I can define those as games where he got less than 50 yards receiving:
I count 10/20 of his games as "bad" - where he got less than 50 yards receiving.
That leaves 4 games where he was "OK to decent"
4 for 67
6 for 62
6 for 57
6 for 58
6 TDs in 20 games
He was "very good to elite" I would say in 3 games in his entire career here.
Heard was a nonfactor/bad in 8/20 games in his career here. In FORTY % of the games he played in, he was a non-factor completely, oftentimes despite getting a good number of targets.
At best, Justin Blackmon showed that he has the POTENTIAL to be a pro-bowl caliber WR, if he became consistent.
The reality is that Justin was a good, not great, and inconsistent WR for the Jaguars. Yes, he is missed. Yes, it would be great to have him back and 100% focused. But let's not get it twisted, and let's not feel too bad about ourselves.
And let' stop with the downright embarrassing comparisons of Blackmon to Julio Jones, AJ Green, and the other elite receivers in this league.
You are So Off Base w/these stats that it's kinda comical...
Seriously Comical...
B14CKMON came into his own within his sophmore NFL season. If it were not for his deficiencies (suspension(s), B14CKMON would be an Household name of the NFL... W/O a doubt... Recently only Cleveland's WR compares and we All knows how that is ending as well...
All N All, B14CKMON would've been an "Once n a Lifetime" receiver to say the least...
Some are simply hating because of his shortcomings...
NH3...
Quote:You are So Off Base w/these stats that it's kinda comical...
Seriously Comical...
B14CKMON came into his own within his sophmore NFL season. If it were not for his deficiencies (suspension(s), B14CKMON would be an Household name of the NFL... W/O a doubt... Recently only Cleveland's WR compares and we All knows how that is ending as well...
All N All, B14CKMON would've been an "Once n a Lifetime" receiver to say the least...
Some are simply hating because of his shortcomings...
NH3...
oh stop with the lame "b14ckmon"...
Idk but dude was on pace for over 1600 yards last year (If he started all 16 games).
And almost having two 200 yard games only 2 years into his career is pretty nasty.
Quote:Idk but dude was on pace for over 1600 yards last year (If he started all 16 games).
And almost having two 200 yard games only 2 years into his career is pretty nasty.
The OP tried to make a point over the fact that Justin had some bad games.
What he failed to realize is that
anyone can have a bad game, but very few are capable of having the kind of phenomenal games that Blackmon had.
Of course we've seriously overrated Justin Blackmon. Not in his ability, because that's not in question. In his capacity to make sensible life decisions that allow him to bring that ability to the field.
Quote:I think my argument is pretty clear. He was a young, developing receiver who was on the verge of a breakout year when he was suspended indefinitely, and he was accomplishing this with Gabbert and Henne feeding him the ball.
Don't forget, that both Gabbert and Henne was playing behind an OL, that couldn't pass block a troop of girl scouts either...
If Blackmon was performing as well as he did overall with his substance abuse distractions, you have to wonder what he could do if his head was on straight and he was dedicated to becoming great. He had elite talent so you'd think he'd have the ability to become an elite receiver. Maybe HOF elite but looks like we'll never know. What a waste of talent.
Quote:Of course we've seriously overrated Justin Blackmon. Not in his ability, because that's not in question. In his capacity to make sensible life decisions that allow him to bring that ability to the field.
Its amazing because he's not a dumb guy, at least per his interviews. I just watched an interview from his pro day in Oklahoma. He's articulate & well spoken for the most part....
He's made some dumb decisions, and even repeated a few, but he's not dumb.
He's just stubborn and has an addictive personality.
His potential is limitless. His ability to fulfill that potential on the other hand appears to be close to zero. Addict? Dumb decision making? Stubbornness? None of that matters diddly squat. As it stands he is absolutely worthless to the Jags in the capacity which they require. It really shouldn't even be a discussion that takes place in the Jaguars section of this message board IMO. He isn't playing football so he shouldn't be discussed in a football section.
But, but... We can't blame him for the bad games. Who in their right mind could make catches when you have like 3 balls coming at you with each attempt. And how could he get open when he couldn't make the breaks and cuts needed. Has any of you attempted to run a 9 route or quick slant with a blood alcohol rate of .646? Let's cut him some slack you guys......
GO JAGS!!
Quote:Its amazing because he's not a dumb guy, at least per his interviews. I just watched an interview from his pro day in Oklahoma. He's articulate & well spoken for the most part....
He's made some dumb decisions, and even repeated a few, but he's not dumb.
He's just stubborn and has an addictive personality.
There are plenty of articulate, well spoken idiots.
Addiction has nothing to do with intelligence or being stubborn.
Quote:If Blackmon was performing as well as he did overall with his substance abuse distractions, you have to wonder what he could do if his head was on straight and he was dedicated to becoming great. He had elite talent so you'd think he'd have the ability to become an elite receiver. Maybe HOF elite but looks like we'll never know. What a waste of talent.
Blackmon is a good teammate and has a strong, strong work ethic and dominates the weight room. It's the stuff off the field that gets him in trouble. When he steps in the building he's a winner in all aspects, which is what makes everything else all the more frustrating.
Quote:Blackmon is a good teammate and has a strong, strong work ethic and dominates the weight room. It's the stuff off the field that gets him in trouble. When he steps in the building he's a winner in all aspects, which is what makes everything else all the more frustrating.
He may have but what I was saying is that if you're distracted by non-football issues it's difficult to attain the focus you need to become an elite player. If he's a non-recovered alcoholic, my bet is he missed workouts and meetings either physically or mentally due to hangovers, etc.
I'm pretty sure Blackmon was on course for 1500+ yards. That's pretty damn good.
Quote:I'm pretty sure Blackmon was on course for 1500+ yards. That's pretty damn good.
Lol he played 4 games. he wasnt on pace for squat...his last 2 games were regressing in number of catches as well as yards.
Its like a guy hitting a home run in game 1 and you proclaiming hes on pace for 162 homers in the year lol. (extreme example but hopefully you get my point)
Quote:Lol he played 4 games. he wasnt on pace for squat...his last 2 games were regressing in number of catches as well as yards.
Its like a guy hitting a home run in game 1 and you proclaiming hes on pace for 162 homers in the year lol. (extreme example but hopefully you get my point)
Actually 4 games is like 25% of the season.
If anything it would be like saying Nelson Cruz is currently on pace for a 60 HR season this year, which he is.
Quote:Actually 4 games is like 25% of the season.
If anything it would be like saying Nelson Cruz is currently on pace for a 60 HR season this year, which he is.
Comical reach trying to compare it to baseball.
Blackmon's sample size? 25% of the season.
The sample size in the given scenario? 0.006% of the season.
Quote:Lol he played 4 games. he wasnt on pace for squat...his last 2 games were regressing in number of catches as well as yards.
Its like a guy hitting a home run in game 1 and you proclaiming hes on pace for 162 homers in the year lol. (extreme example but hopefully you get my point)
He was actually on pace for 1,660 Yards. He missed the first 4 games though, so it wouldn't have happened. A 1,000 yard season (12 games) was certainly within reach however, and denying this is just foolish.