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Gus should have been fired a long time ago. Seems obvious now.

While true. They did not know what they had in Marrone. 

Quote:Not entirely sure I buy this either.

 

The defense recorded three goal line stands within the last 3 weeks.  That's not the sign of a team that has quit.

 

Now I will absolutely say Gus could not maximize the talent on this team, whether they quit or not.

I have to roll with you on this one too. I was never a Gus fan, but I don't know if you can really draw a one to one correlation between todays game and Gus not being here. Did it influence the players effort? I guess the results we saw on the field would suggest it did, but I don't know that I would attribute it all simply to Gus not being here.

Quote:I have to roll with you on this one too. I was never a Gus fan, but I don't know if you can really draw a one to one correlation between todays game and Gus not being here. Did it influence the players effort? I guess the results we saw on the field would suggest it did, but I don't know that I would attribute it all simply to Gus not being here.

I do. Short week and was prepared and Made great assignments. And great clock management as well. 

Quote:ok...this I can buy.

 

 

I think firing Gus took the pressure off and the bad karma that followed letting him (and themselves down made a huge difference.

 

You could see they played like a team that allowed THEMSELVES to succeed.

 

 

Who knows what happens if the firing happens in Week 3 or something.  Total ridiculous 2nd guess.

Gus' clock management left alot to be desired. It was nice to see how well rounded the team was today. Doug just put a foot forward towards getting the job here I think, especially if Dave's gonna stick around.

This game just showed what the Jags are capable of and what Gus was incapable of. If they can repeat performance next week, then Marrone certainly makes it difficult for the front office to ignore.

I guaranteed a win yesterday, I knew the players would play to their fullest.. Right now its about supporting your family.. Everybody job is on the line.. And they played like it.. It was a great game, I just wonder could this season have been salvaged if the move to fire Gus had been made earlier?

Quote:I guaranteed a win yesterday, I knew the players would play to their fullest.. Right now its about supporting your family.. Everybody job is on the line.. And they played like it.. It was a great game, I just wonder could this season have been salvaged if the move to fire Gus had been made earlier?

 

It's clear that the significant amount of talent on this team wasn't exploited under Bradley. This team is a lot better off than the record indicates no matter who the next coach turns out to be.

Quote:It's clear that the significant amount of talent on this team wasn't exploited under Bradley. This team is a lot better off than the record indicates no matter who the next coach turns out to be.

So whose to blame for that??

Quote:So whose to blame for that??

 

Shad Khan. It's obvious that Gus was his guy and he wouldn't let Caldwell move on this past off season. I don't have a source for it but it's pretty obvious.

Quote:Shad Khan. It's obvious that Gus was his guy and he wouldn't let Caldwell move on this past off season. I don't have a source for it but it's pretty obvious.

Hmmm... I think it was Khan that made the call to Caldwell to fire Gus.. He is the Gm.. Lol it shouldn't have taken for Khan to push him to fire Gus he should have been did it.. But his pride wouldn't allow it.. He didn't wanna be wrong..

Quote:I think firing Gus took the pressure off and the bad karma that followed letting him (and themselves down made a huge difference.

 

You could see they played like a team that allowed THEMSELVES to succeed.

 

 

Who knows what happens if the firing happens in Week 3 or something.  Total ridiculous 2nd guess.

 

I agree.    To me, it looked like they were relaxed and having fun.  Maybe the pressure of trying to save Gus' job had been weighing them down.  

Quote:I think firing Gus took the pressure off and the bad karma that followed letting him (and themselves down made a huge difference.

 

You could see they played like a team that allowed THEMSELVES to succeed.

 

 

Who knows what happens if the firing happens in Week 3 or something.  Total ridiculous 2nd guess.

The sad part is we can never know for sure.

Quote:Shad Khan. It's obvious that Gus was his guy and he wouldn't let Caldwell move on this past off season. I don't have a source for it but it's pretty obvious.

Dave said as much in his press conference on Monday, that Gus wasn't his guy and was hired even though Dave wasn't convinced of him.

Quote:Hmmm... I think it was Khan that made the call to Caldwell to fire Gus.. He is the Gm.. Lol it shouldn't have taken for Khan to push him to fire Gus he should have been did it.. But his pride wouldn't allow it.. He didn't wanna be wrong..

 

Well, I think the opposite, I think Khan loved Bradley and didn't want to make a mid-season move. Shame we'll never know who is right.

Quote:Dave said as much in his press conference on Monday, that Gus wasn't his guy and was hired even though Dave wasn't convinced of him.

 

No.  He did not say that.  

Quote:Dave said as much in his press conference on Monday, that Gus wasn't his guy and was hired even though Dave wasn't convinced of him.

I am perplexed by this.

 

Much was made about the eleven (11) hour meeting Caldwell and Bradley supposedly had before Dave hired him.

 

If Khan pulled the strings here, why bother to meet for so long?

Quote:I am perplexed by this.

 

Much was made about the eleven (11) hour meeting Caldwell and Bradley supposedly had before Dave hired him.

 

If Khan pulled the strings here, why bother to meet for so long?

 

Well, Baskin-Robbins does have 31 flavors. It takes a while to get through them all.

Quote:I am perplexed by this.

 

Much was made about the eleven (11) hour meeting Caldwell and Bradley supposedly had before Dave hired him.

 

If Khan pulled the strings here, why bother to meet for so long?

 

No, it's a mis-quote from Dave's press conference.   He was asked about hiring a new coach, and whether he could hire someone he didn't have a previous relationship with, and he said, he did that with Gus.  He had no previous relationship with Gus.   

 

Then someone posted on this message board that he was asked if he would hire someone he didn't feel comfortable with, and that Dave had said, he did it with Gus.  

 

But that wasn't the question.   The question was, would he have any hesitation to hire someone he didn't have a previous relationship with.  Not, would he hire someone he was not comfortable with. 

Quote:I am perplexed by this.

 

Much was made about the eleven (11) hour meeting Caldwell and Bradley supposedly had before Dave hired him.

 

If Khan pulled the strings here, why bother to meet for so long?

Who knows, but when asked directly if it was possible the team hires is next coach as a guy Dave isn't fully convinced of he said that's distinctly possible and that it was that way for Gus, which was quite the shock to myself. I always thought Gus was Dave's guy all the way. Really changes my perspective on Dave knowing Gus is on someone else, likely Tony Khan.