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Quote:He was. You can't tell that to people now though.

 

Big sigh of relief that the Texans didn't get Teddy. That would have really sucked. 

Quote:Big sigh of relief that the Texans didn't get Teddy. That would have really sucked. 

 

It's going to suck watching him succeed anywhere knowing we could have had him and Watkins for pennies on the dollar.

Quote:He's pretty similar to Teddy as a prospect in my opinion. Big difference to me is Bortles has the size, but Teddy has the intelligence and already ran a pro style offense. He's also a more accurate passer.

UCF also runs a pro style offense although they mix in a little option from time to time.

Quote:UCF also runs a pro style offense although they mix in a little option from time to time.

 

A lot of screens and a lot of only reading one side of the field. Not like UL's true pro style offense

Quote:A lot of screens and a lot of only reading one side of the field. Not like UL's true pro style offense

Screens are important and I'm happy for us to use them a lot.

Quote:Big sigh of relief that the Texans didn't get Teddy. That would have really sucked. 

 

or for the texans to get more picks through trading for teddy.

Signing Gerhart and evaluating Bortles as the top QB are not correlated whatsoever. That is incredibly stupid. 

Quote:Signing Gerhart and evaluating Bortles as the top QB are not correlated whatsoever. That is incredibly stupid. 

 

whoa, the similarity is very much there.  the gerhart/turner comparison is DEAD on.  Matt Ryan to Blake Bortles is close enough and when you pair it with the RB additions, you can see what Dave is doing is based on previous success.  BC and UCF runs similar offenses in similar conferences, and both quarterbacks excelled in that position enough to excel in their respective bowls.

Quote:A lot of screens and a lot of only reading one side of the field. Not like UL's true pro style offense

Some but it also features and under center vertical passing element. He's also more accurate than Teddy.

Quote:Imagine that. A guy follows his instincts based on past experience. The next thing you'll tell us is that water is wet.

FBT posting the same old overused insults again. How amusing.

 

Well since you're all for the same overused insults, I might as well give you one of the same overused responses:

 

Water is wet because it is a liquid and wetness is a property of a liquid. Liquids are one of the states of matter.

Quote:I think a big turn-off for the staff on Teddy was him not taking part in everything in the combine.

I really like that Bottles competed in everything and gets picked first while Manziel and Bridgewater slide after not throwing. May make others think in the future.

Quote:A lot of screens and a lot of only reading one side of the field. Not like UL's true pro style offense

 

You're nuts.  Ted was known to checkdown when he didn't need to, inflating the completion percentage.  Taking the safe route.

 

If you bother watching Gruden's QB camp, he takes the QBs through his (Gruden's) favorite play on the whiteboard.  Same play both had in their offense.  It's a play they both knew.

 

They run the same offense.

 

Gruden wanted to see how each approach the play.  Ted had all the textbook answers, as he should.  OTOH, Blake was more aggressive in explaining how to attack the defense and how to handle different coverages and take it to them based on different looks, and even talked about wrinkles within those different looks.

Quote:A month or so ago I compared Caldwell's pick of Gerhart in free agency similar to what he did in Atlanta with the Michael Turner FA selection....

 

well, guess what?....

 

Blake Bortles is similar to the QB his regime drafted in Atlanta, in Matt Ryan. 

 

Gus Bradley as head coach is similar to Atlanta's choice of Mike Smith...

 

Caldwell is a creature of habit. We all need to start paying more attention to what he's done or been a part of in his past in Atlanta to get an idea of what moves he's going to make. 

 

 

was Cadlwell THE GUY making these moves for ATL though? i didnt think he was.

Quote:FBT posting the same old overused insults again. How amusing.

 

Well since you're all for the same overused insults, I might as well give you one of the same overused responses:

 

Water is wet because it is a liquid and wetness is a property of a liquid. Liquids are one of the states of matter.

 

So you're educated in stating the obvious?  Thanks for the heads up.

Quote:was Cadlwell THE GUY making these moves for ATL though? i didnt think he was.

 

Was Caldwell one of the people who was advising the guy who made these moves in Atlanta? 

 

Was Caldwell the director of A.) college scouting and B.) Player personnel during his time in Atlanta?

 

Do you honestly think he had no influence in the personnel decisions they were making up there?

Quote:I'll say this though, 

 

I DO want another QB selected in this draft. 

 

 

 

Hopefully Murray in the 4th. 

Wow, I agree with you here. Murray could be a quality backup, like Gary Kubiak was to Elway. And if he's truly special, he could push Bortles, and, in the worst case scenario, salvage this draft if Bortles bombs. 

Dave cannot tell a lie.Great story starting at the :30 mark.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G0UjWsD8Pk

 

Quote:Granted some of this is from doing some research after the fact of drafting him......,

 

but, 

 

I do like the fact that he seems to throw well on the run. I like that UCF allegedly isn't a very talented offense as far as skill players go, and he seemed to do more with less, which is one of the traits I look for in both QB and coach. As much as I don't like it to be amongst the first attributes mentioned with a QB - I do like the prototypical size Bortles has. I like the fact that he won his bowl game, and did so despite adversity - i.e. had to come from behind to do it. Winners are able to do that. 

 

Another thing I like (and I think I was correct in this observation) was that he seems to keep his eyes downfield, much like Teddy, when he's on the run or trying to evade pressure. 

 

He also led UCF back to beat Louisville when they were down 21 points.  If you can find a way to rewatch that game, go do it.

 

I think it was a Thursday night game, great atmosphere....Louisville jumps up big in the 3rd quarter to go up 28 to 7.  UCF fights back and actually takes the lead 31 to 28.  Louisville then takes the lead back 35 to 31.  UCF put the dagger in when they scored a touchdown on an insane throw by Bortles with 23 seconds left.

 

Great college football game.

Quote:or for the texans to get more picks through trading for teddy.

 

Good point. 

Quote:Was Caldwell one of the people who was advising the guy who made these moves in Atlanta? 

 

Was Caldwell the director of A.) college scouting and B.) Player personnel during his time in Atlanta?

 

Do you honestly think he had no influence in the personnel decisions they were making up there?

 

 

GM is the GM. who gets blamed and who gets credit? the GM...or his staff below him? come on guys lol. im not saying he didnt have ANY input. but we dont even know what that ways. What if he PERSONALLY didnt want those guys? do we know?