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Quote:That article is not a factual report though. You know that anytime Jim Harbaugh is on the list.

What the, what the? Ugh, I can't even anymore....

Quote:That article is not a factual report though. You know that anytime Jim Harbaugh is on the list.

Quote:We don't have anybody with he first or last name Haley.

 

His Last Name is Comet

The truth is the players won't care who or what style the HC as long as they see results i.e wins.


Sure there might be some resistance but ultimately the change will do the players good.

Quote:This is what I worry about with Haley. That being said if nothing your going to do will change anything why try? Sounds like Malik just wants to sit back and get his 90 mil.

I mean I can't blame him

Quote:Nobody talked about him being one of the candidates for our HC job.

He was talked about plenty on this board alone.

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Malik needs to shut his mouth and earn his 90 million. So far he is a bum.

Quote:He was talked about plenty on this board alone.

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She's just going to say there not real fans and not a nfl source, and then your face will explode.

Quote:He was talked about plenty on this board alone.

 

Only on this board. Where are the NFL analysts connecting Todd Haley to the Jaguars?

Quote:Only on this board. Where are the NFL analysts connecting Todd Haley to the Jaguars?

 

  Like I expressed in another thread in the last week,  I'm of the opinion that many people that participate on this board have better knowledge about the Jaguars than most national NFL analysts.   Todd Haley certainly belongs in the conversion as a potential Jaguars 2017 HC candidate.

Quote:Malik needs to shut his mouth and earn his 90 million. So far he is a bum.

What?!?!?

 

Are you watching the games? He's been worth every penny.

Quote:Like I expressed in another thread in the last week, I'm of the opinion that many people that participate on this board have better knowledge about the Jaguars than most national NFL analysts. Todd Haley certainly belongs in the conversion as a potential Jaguars 2017 HC candidate.

 

Didn't Todd Haley have a bad record as Kansas City's HC?

Quote:Didn't Todd Haley have a bad record as Kansas City's HC?

 

 Todd Haley led the Chiefs to a DIvision TItle.   Since that time,  no HC on teams other than the Denver Broncos have won an AFC West TItle.    A streak that's 5 season running going into the 2016 season.  

Quote:Todd Haley led the Chiefs to a dIvision tItle. Since that time, no HC on teams other than the Denver Broncos have won an AFC West title. A streak that's 5 season running going into the 2016 season.  

 

And a streak that is officially over now. 

Quote:And a streak that is officially over now.

 

  That doesn't take away from the fact that Todd Haley has a major accomplishment on his resume as a HC. 

Quote:That doesn't take away from the fact that Todd Haley has a major accomplishment on his resume as a HC. 

 

It certainly was a major accomplishment - and one most NFL fans have probably forgotten because of Andy Reid.

Because malik knows that hard nosed yell at everybody for everything disciplinarian everyone around here is infatuated with isnt a sure fire answer to things. These are grown men, this isnt highschool football. they dont need a coach to yell at them to be successful, they need a scheme and gameplan to put them in the right positions every week and a coach that can get them to buy in to that scheme.

Quote:...they dont need a coach to yell at them to be successful, they need a scheme and gameplan to put them in the right positions every week and a coach that can get them to buy in to that scheme.

... and a semi-accurate QB

Quote:I think it's a fairly typical response from a player that respects a "less than institutional" atmosphere in the meeting rooms and practice field. 

 

Still - I find it impossible to think that a coach with a bit more edge won't be able to cut down on the stupid mistakes made by this team so regularly. 

 

Quote:A lot of times employees aren't as results-oriented as upper management is.  They see a boss that is their friend and supportive, so they're going to be mad if he gets fired.

 

 

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Malik needs to shut his mouth and earn his 90 million. So far he is a bum.


 

 

First off, Malik Jackson came from Denver, where he won a Super Bowl and went to another.

 

He probably has perspectives from players from other teams.  I would say his opinion has some credibility here, more so than those of us on a message board bent on maligning and vilifying players.

 

Furthermore, history has shown a hardline approach does not necessarily translate into success on the field.

 

I remember the Vikings once hired a former marine drill instructor, Les Steckel, to replace Bud Grant who led the Vikings to an 8-8 record in 1983.  He put the players through a marine style boot camp, complete with obstacle courses.  His tenure was a Bradley-esque 3-13 disaster.  He lasted one year and Grant returned from retirement to restore respectability to the franchise.  [url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/1984.htm%C2][/url]

 

A more contemporary example is found with Coughlin.  Coughlin was as hardline as they come, but his approach didn't prevent both the Jaguars and Giants from firing him, despite earlier success. A hardcore, disciplinarian approach is not a panacea either.

 

I know a fanbase like ours that has endured years of breathtaking failure is inclined to lash out at players who were largely responsible for those results.  But Malik Jackson had success before he got here, and his play was not the reason for this team's failures. 

 

The Jaguars may benefit from a more hard line approach from a new coach.  But that's no guarantee.

 

The team's failures do not negate the truth behind his statements.

He also said this.


"Gus got fired. The train doesn't stop for anybody. We've got to keep rolling and go out here and win some games or Khan's going to fire one of us, too."


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