Quote:First off, Malik Jackson came from Denver, where he won a Super Bowl and went to another.
He probably has perspectives from players from other teams. I would say his opinion has some credibility here, more so than those of us on a message board bent on maligning and vilifying players.
Furthermore, history has shown a hardline approach does not necessarily translate into success on the field.
I remember the Vikings once hired a former marine drill instructor, Les Steckel, to replace Bud Grant. He put the players through a marine style boot camp, complete with obstacle courses. His tenure was a Bradley-esque 3-13 disaster. He lasted one year and Grant returned from retirement to restore respectability to the franchise.
A more contemporary example is found with Coughlin. Coughlin was as hardline as they come, but his approach didn't prevent both the Jaguars and Giants from firing him, despite earlier success. A hardcore, disciplinarian approach is not a panacea either.
I know a fanbase like ours that has endured years of breathtaking failure is inclined to lash out at players who were largely responsible for those results. But Malik Jackson had success before he got here, and his play was not the reason for this team's failures.
The Jaguars may benefit from a more hard line approach from a new coach. But that's no guarantee.
The team's failures do not negate the truth behind his statements.
My intent was to validate his statement - not negate it.
But - as I attempted to imply - the gross amount of unacceptable individual errors and pointless penalties committed by this roster over the past two seasons tells me that many of them would indeed benefit from a more disciplined approach.
Quote:My intent was to validate his statement - not negate it.
But - as I attempted to imply - the gross amount of unacceptable individual errors and pointless penalties committed by this roster over the past two seasons tells me that many of them would indeed benefit from a more disciplined approach.
My apologies if I misconstrued the intent behind your statement.
Quote:... and a semi-accurate QB
We have one. His name is Blake Bortles and he wears #5.
Like I said many times, last year is the real Blake and he just needs good coaching to get back to that.
Quote:My apologies if I misconstrued the intent behind your statement.
All good, Bullseye. I like Malik.
While big free agent signings almost never earn their contracts / I see him working hard at it and making significant impact that's overshadowed by the struggles of the offense.
I imagine that if I were in his shoes I'd regret losing a coach like Bradley and wish the team could have won enough to retain him.
I do see need for greater discipline elsewhere around the roster though.
Quote:All good, Bullseye. I like Malik.
While big free agent signings almost never earn their contracts / I see him working hard at it and making significant impact that's overshadowed by the struggles of the offense.
I imagine that if I were in his shoes I'd regret losing a coach like Bradley and wish the team could have won enough to retain him.
I do see need for greater discipline elsewhere around the roster though.
Agreed on all counts.
I will say the discipline can't just be a guy being hard [BLEEP] for the sake of being hard [BLEEP]. He actually has to be a good coach.
Quote:We have one. His name is Blake Bortles and he wears #5.
Like I said many times, last year is the real Blake and he just needs good coaching to get back to that.
we "had" one. Right now we have a giant question mark at that position.
You can say it till you're red in the face. But it's just your opinion and not a fact.
What I don't understand is why do people blame all penalties on the HC? Players commit penalties on the field. Coaches can teach discipline, but it is up to the players to just do their jobs.
Quote:we "had" one. Right now we have a giant question mark at that position.
It IS a HUGE question mark, one that will drive at least the early part of the off-season.
I am disappointed beyond measure that is the case.
Bortles showed so much promise. How did he regress so far so fast? I can't help but wonder if he was playing hurt most of the season and he didn't tell anyone, or if he took his second year progress for granted, or if the coaching somehow took a nosedive (a scary thought).
Quote:we "had" one. Right now we have a giant question mark at that position.
You can say it till you're red in the face. But it's just your opinion and not a fact.
If the past tense is my opinion, the present tense is your opinion.
Quote:It IS a HUGE question mark, one that will drive at least the early part of the off-season.
I am disappointed beyond measure that is the case.
Bortles showed so much promise. How did he regress so far so fast? I can't help but wonder if he was playing hurt most of the season and he didn't tell anyone, or if he took his second year progress for granted, or if the coaching somehow took a nosedive (a scary thought).
I think it's fair to say that the 2017 season is a make or break season for Blake Bortles not only with the Jaguars. But regarding the remainder of his playing career.
Quote:It IS a HUGE question mark, one that will drive at least the early part of the off-season.
I am disappointed beyond measure that is the case.
Bortles showed so much promise. How did he regress so far so fast? I can't help but wonder if he was playing hurt most of the season and he didn't tell anyone, or if he took his second year progress for granted, or if the coaching somehow took a nosedive (a scary thought).
Tough to pin down the "why."
Lots of theories. Injury, coaching, work ethic, no track record of solid fundamentals, etc. Etc.
I personally have a hunch that between Fisch, Scelfo, Olson, Hackett, and House -- he's just had too many cooks in the kitchen and his technique suffered from over-thinking.
If the kid can get a concentrated routine going this offseason to the point where the footwork and throwing motion are second nature in September - then he's got a chance.
Quote: I think it's fair to say that the 2017 season is a make or break season for Blake Bortles not only with the Jaguars. But regarding the remainder of his playing career.
That is not overstating things at all.
His regression-whether short term or long-is fate of the franchise stuff here.
I think the coaching hire may well hinge on whether a coach truly thinks they can fix Bortles. I think a lot of Caldwell's interviews will focus on that.
That will reverberate for years.
Quote:Tough to pin down the "why."
Lots of theories. Injury, coaching, work ethic, no track record of solid fundamentals, etc. Etc.
I personally have a hunch that between Fisch, Scelfo, Olson, Hackett, and House -- he's just had too many cooks in the kitchen and his technique suffered from over-thinking.
If the kid can get a concentrated routine going this offseason to the point where the footwork and throwing motion are second nature in September - then he's got a chance.
That is as plausible a theory as I've heard, and it's one that makes a ton of sense.
In my mind the best case scenario is that we get a coach willing to bring in a solid vet for competition, who is able to fix Bortles, who can put him in a scheme that will allow him-or any QB-to flourish.
I don't know why people think he might be hiding an injury. We would know if he was in real pain beyond the normal soreness. If you don't believe me, watch what other quarterbacks do when they get hurt and how injuries affect them.
Quote:That is not overstating things at all.
His regression-whether short term or long-is fate of the franchise stuff here.
I think the coaching hire may well hinge on whether a coach truly thinks they can fix Bortles. I think a lot of Caldwell's interviews will focus on that.
That will reverberate for years.
Agreed.
A bitter reality in the NFL that we have seen for decades is there are two types of teams:
1. Teams that have their starting QB In place barring an injury.
2. Teams that either don't have their starting QB IN place barring an injury or have major performance uncertainty at the position. The Bills are another team that I believe fits the latter part of # 2.
Quote:That is as plausible a theory as I've heard, and it's one that makes a ton of sense.
In my mind the best case scenario is that we get a coach willing to bring in a solid vet for competition, who is able to fix Bortles, who can put him in a scheme that will allow him-or any QB-to flourish.
You know it is the GM's job to bring in competition, right? All a coach can do is work with the QB, not sign him.
Quote: Agreed.
A bitter reality in the NFL that we have seen for decades is there are two types of teams:
1. Teams that have their starting QB In place barring an injury.
2. Teams that either don't have their starting QB IN place barring an injury or have major performance uncertainty at the position. The Bills are another team that I believe fits the latter part of # 2.
Absolutely. There have been countless teams over the years that could have done great things if they only had a QB.
One thing that will be interesting to watch is how the rest of the offense is constructed once the new coach comes in.
Usually, a coach will come in, want his own guy at QB, and make sure they put the weapons around him to succeed.
Will the new coach think Robinson, Hurns and Lee are sufficient for his guy-whether it's Bortles or someone else-or bring in different types of receivers?
Will TE be a renewed priority? What kinds of OL will we draft? Will we keep power back Ivory, or opt for more of a breakaway threat?
Will offense be that big of a priority at all this offseason? You would think so, but if the new coach comes in with a dramatically different defensive philosophy (i.e. a 3-4), I would think much draft capital would be spent stocking the defense accordingly.
Quote:It IS a HUGE question mark, one that will drive at least the early part of the off-season.
I am disappointed beyond measure that is the case.
Bortles showed so much promise. How did he regress so far so fast? I can't help but wonder if he was playing hurt most of the season and he didn't tell anyone, or if he took his second year progress for granted, or if the coaching somehow took a nosedive (a scary thought).
Combo of all three.
Been well known he has a shoulder injury for a while. Not sure how long, but you see him cringe when he gets hit with that shoulder.
This coaching staff is terrible. They didn't seem to give a crap about his mechanics which obviously have had a very large negative effect on him. I'm fairly sure I read an article early on in this pathetic season where he has said he doesn't care about QB mechanics (crazy for an OC to say...). The fact they allowed him to get to this point is partly on Blake sure, but the coaching staff watching him every day letting it happen? It's their job to fix this stuff. He has shown he is capable of fixing it as he showed last year. But you need proper coaching and teacher to keep improving and keep it up.
Reports said he worked with teammates more last offseason instead of focusing on mechanics like the previous off-season. Still went there for a couple weeks, but not quite as much time/focusing on it I'd imagine.
Quote:Agreed.
A bitter reality in the NFL that we have seen for decades is there are two types of teams:
1. Teams that have their starting QB In place barring an injury.
2. Teams that either don't have their starting QB IN place barring an injury or have major performance uncertainty at the position. The Bills are another team that I believe fits the latter part of # 2.
Tyrod Taylor is the default starter barring injury for now, but on shaky ground with fourth round rookie Cardale Jones waiting. The Jaguars aren't talking about sixth round pick Brandon Allen yet and would go the UFA route to bring in competition for Blake Bortles.
All I heard was "I came here for the money and not work for it." "Please don't make me do stuff."